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Fools, Zod is a well-balanced character.

Is Zod well-balanced?


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Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Hey, I was handicapped too!!! Xbox pad sucks! NO EXCUSES AT CEO!!!
I dunno if I'm going. I'll be finding out in about a week or two. Wish me luck, because I'm feeling hungry again...
And this time, I'll take more than just 6 grilled cheese, a double cheeseburger, and a large side of bacon.
 
I agree. To insinuate Zod is not top because he takes effort is a logical fallacy. There's this character called C. Viper who everyone thought sucked because her learning curve was high. 2 years later, she was generally agreed to be Top 3 in the game. Her normals are bad but her vortex is ridiculous. Same with Zod. His wakeups are terrible and his mobility is mediocre, but he'd be broken if they were good.
I agree. To add onto this, one of the common counterpoints to a character being overpowered is "why aren't all 'insert character name here' players winning tournaments then?" The truth is that depending on the size of the community there usually only ever is one player who ever truly showcase what a character is capable of at the highest level, because it takes the right person to do it. Doesn't mean its not overpowered. MorriganxDoomxVergil is still probably the strongest team in Marvel3 but there's really only one player out there who's ever had the execution, skill, and mindset to have consistent success with it.
 

DevilMaySpy

Mama's Little Bumgorf
I agree. To add onto this, one of the common counterpoints to a character being overpowered is "why aren't all 'insert character name here' players winning tournaments then?" The truth is that depending on the size of the community there usually only ever is one player who ever truly showcase what a character is capable of at the highest level, because it takes the right person to do it. Doesn't mean its not overpowered. MorriganxDoomxVergil is still probably the strongest team in Marvel3 but there's really only one player out there who's ever had the execution, skill, and mindset to have consistent success with it.
Correct. If we used tournament results to determine tier lists, Green Arrow would be top 5.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
Ok real talk, you're a lazy injustice player

Extremely lazy

Realtalk m2dave at KIT was put into my pool, I went to the lab and in FIVEEE MINUTES found a way to not only evade 100% w no problems all 50/50 full screen mixups but punish it w half the cast including NW full screen .

Maybe spend less time bitching about things u have no clue about and more time labbing for answers

Still to this day no one has ever done ,what I found, on me
i don't know how to explain this but hear me out, when you know the ins and out of your character, its alot easier to find things that blow your character up, for example have you seen me do in the corner b22 MB SP or b22f3 MB SP cross up? I AM THE ONLY THAT KNOWS YOU CAN DASH FORWARD OUT OF IT, i've done it to other flash's players that like to use it in the mirror. i think the same applies here, you found something about your tech and trait that no one has because not only did you discover it, but you are also a very good player. i have found things in the MU mid match playing against zod that i had to go test out after to see how viable it was. and trust me when i say this, every day since FR i have been in the lab against zod, looking through your tech, do it on me (as best i could) and seeing how to counter it. this still doesn't apply to all the supposed secret hidden tech you may have like everyone supposedly does. IMO and this isn't a knock on you or any one who hides tech, but i post ALL my tech, if i ever hid tech, i never actually used it in tournament or i deemed it un viable before posting, i would find something broken and be happy and say i got this amazing tech that am keeping secret for said major. but then i would test on how to blow it up and deem how adaptable the tech is and i won't use it or just won't deem it worthy or gimmicky (like all of Muffin muggers tech vids). what am saying is i learn after NEC that tech wasn't enough to beat great players, i had a list longer then amount muffin muggers lies of gimmicks and tech but knew that i had to level up in order to do well, and to play out of my mind if i want to win. all this secrecy about this character and that tech won't help you win against a player that is out playing you. i think zod is becoming more and more fair everyday i spend in the lab with him, am just here to tell you that you are going to have to out play me to beat me again :D
 

BartenderJeeves

Almost a bartender, but not exactly a bartender.
I voted not well balanced, because I play online and because I suck :/

P.S. I love Theo's avatar. <3
 

The_SNKE

BLT | RM
100% agree. There was a lot of upplaying of his footsies these past 5-6 months. Even a good low like F2 turns into average/mediocre when combined with his atrocious walk speed. People tend to forget that movement dictates footsies as well as move range/speed.
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Imo he has some chip shit, but everyone in this game does... I really believe he is top 5 discussion and tied with Wonder Woman. And he is def not an easy character! I agree that he is balanced, i've known he is balanced but top 10. Balanced top tier, i play a very similar character.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
-A backdash that takes about 2 calendar years to recover.
-A walkspeed that makes Makoto in Street Fighter IV look like Akuma.
-T-rex arms that reinforce Sektor players' PTSD
-A force-push that has laughable recovery.
-A low laser that, if you meterburn, God help you if it whiffs. Oh, and it barely does chip, especially if a portion of it whiffs to which it does around 2-3
Sounds like Martian Manhunter... Except you don't even have the option to MB his low laser.

*Krossed out the Sektor part because Green Arrow's 11 is ironically more like it and it doesn't play as big of a role in this game.
 

Glass Sword

Nobody
Zod is as balanced as Kenshi was.

- Slow walkspeed.
- T-rex arms.
- Shitty wake ups.
Can you clarify. You usually make pretty good points. This one eludes me however since Zod has some real weaknesses Kenshi did not. What he does have Kenshi did not is instant airs which are nearly always a game changer in NRS games.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
Ok real talk, you're a lazy injustice player

Extremely lazy

Realtalk m2dave at KIT was put into my pool, I went to the lab and in FIVEEE MINUTES found a way to not only evade 100% w no problems all 50/50 full screen mixups but punish it w half the cast including NW full screen .

Maybe spend less time bitching about things u have no clue about and more time labbing for answers

Still to this day no one has ever done ,what I found, on me
Yeah. Kinda how people kould punish Martian's overhead but they kontinue to komplain that it's safe..
 

Cossner

King of the Jobbers 2015
Administrator
Can you clarify. You usually make pretty good points. This one eludes me however since Zod has some real weaknesses Kenshi did not. What he does have Kenshi did not is instant airs which are nearly always a game changer in NRS games.
It was a troll post glass sword.


But realtalk, the ONLY thing that makes Zod ridiculous is the trait. The moment he has trait he controls the entire game. It's not about blocking or not blocking or whatever, it's the fact that he can do absolutely he wants while it's active. Other than that he's fine.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
The top 5 reasons for Zod's great balance.

1. Mediocre footsies.
2. Mediocre walk speed.
3. Mediocre wake up attacks.
4. Mediocre super move.
5. Trait does not have 8 seconds of cool down.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
100% agree. There was a lot of upplaying of his footsies these past 5-6 months. Even a good low like F2 turns into average/mediocre when combined with his atrocious walk speed. People tend to forget that movement dictates footsies as well as move range/speed.
Not every character needs or wins with footsies though..

PS: Still playing Guilty Gear? I might pick it up after EVO. (Blazblue is a main game so I'm playing that first. Plus I like my character..)