Balance Suggestions: Perfect Legend, M2Dave, Forever King, THTB and PLAYING TO W1N

[atljonesbro1]

Edit: I agree with Sinestro changes in OP

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

As it is, Superman's only safe strings on block are 11 and 111, both of which can be ducked and have horrible range.

to clarify... f23 is extremely safe and arguably the best string in the game. am i not understanding your point? i hear what your saying other than this though

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

If Sinestro had slightly safer fear blast, safer boulder, and slightly safer b13 id be pretty happy

as my main, thats asking to much. safer impact... yes. safe b13 ... thats a dream man but its the same thing as black adam... consider risk reward. safe launcher? that you can hit confirm to 30% or resets? to strong

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

a safe b 12 is all u need with the boulder buff

 

[TJ Casters]

to clarify... f23 is extremely safe and arguably the best string in the game. am i not understanding your point? i hear what your saying other than this though

I mean except F23. I figured if this string is getting nerfed (which it probably will be), I should talk about his other strings. You are right, F23 is -2 on block. I was explaining, disregarding F23 (since we want Superman to use other strings), what can be done to make his other strings more useful.

 

[its_ezie]

well considering that the next patch is going to be full of buffs ( i do believe boon said on twitter anyway that the next patch is buffs and normalizations) the nerfs on here wont really matter for the next update atleast. i love the buffs for bane he should definitely be able to cancel his charge give him 2 hits on venom x2 and LEAVE is venom 3 exactly the way it is now straight invincible. lex should indeed have faster frames on all of his specials. and leave superman the way he is. i mean shit he's already normalized on damage what else do you people want lol leave superman alone already! if anything grundy has the one if not the best damage output in the game! its crazy how he can do 70%+ in the corner of what 2 bars??? and do it all over again. but... noone says anything about that right? smh crazy. besides all the superman hate i like most of their ideas for the next update. and lets not get started on killer frost's slide on block, black adams fullscreen dive kick that i believe reads negative on his movelist but is never punished for it. if you ask me im happy the way the game is right now. release the rest of the DLC and then do one last patch, normalization, update or whatever to mainly fix any problems with those DLC characters and deal with everyone else next. and thats that.

 

[SaJa]

Nerfing Flash's trait combo will make his trait 100% useless. And in that case, we should nerf grundy, Bane, BA, Superman, Shazam's trait as well because most of them make even or more damages.


Flash is fine right now, he is finally tournament viable and you wanna nerf him already. He is not even in top 5. And his trait is also pointless once the wagger can be used. If you wanna nerf the damage ok, but you need to buff his recovery on his trait to not make it useless.

You guys wanna see Shazam's trait buff like superman and in another hand nerfing Flash's one.
Np, Shazam will be able to go for 63% midscreen 1 meter and 75% in corner all day.

 

[Error]

as a note, the others were voting for shazam's psycho crusher to be safe on block. i vehemently disagree with this.

Yeah, I'd much rather it have a quicker start-up and remain as unsafe as it currently is.


As for Super Breath, I think the problem is that it has too much pushback since the latest "nerf" which made it 0 on block but conveniently enough, leaves you in perfect F23 range.

 

[TJ Casters]

well considering that the next patch is going to be full of buffs ( i do believe boon said on twitter anyway that the next patch is buffs and normalizations) the nerfs on here wont really matter for the next update atleast. i love the buffs for bane he should definitely be able to cancel his charge give him 2 hits on venom x2 and LEAVE is venom 3 exactly the way it is now straight invincible. lex should indeed have faster frames on all of his specials. and leave superman the way he is. i mean shit he's already normalized on damage what else do you people want lol leave superman alone already! if anything grundy has the one if not the best greatest damage output in the game! its crazy how he can do 70%+ in the corner of what 2 bars??? and do it all over again. but... noone says anything about that right? smh crazy. besides all the superman hate i like most of their ideas for the next update.

Grundy can get upwards of 90%, I believe. However, he gets outzoned easily.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Nerfing Flash's trait combo will make his trait 100% useless. And in that case, we should nerf grundy, Bane, BA, Superman, Shazam's trait as well because most of them make even or more damages.
You guys wanna see Shazam's trait buff like superman. Np, but he will be able to go for 63% midscreen 1 meter all day.

Flash is fine right now, he is finally tournament viable and you wanna nerf him already. He is not even in top 5. And his trait is also pointless once the wagger can be used. If you wanna nerf the damage ok, but you need to buff his recovery on his trait to not make it useless.

so... say 44% vs almost 60% breaks the trait? no.

 

[SZSR]

Yeah, I'd much rather it have a quicker start-up and remain as unsafe as it currently is.

I agree with this, it should be a whiff/reversal punish. It should not be a safe pressure starter.

 

[GGA Max]

Heh if this comes true bane will get the "jax treatment" haha I mean um yeah bane is bottom 5 am I right?

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Grundy can get upwards of 90%, I believe. However, he gets outzoned easily.

highly situational... and if someone hits that stuff late in tournaments i will stand up and clap my hands while nodding my head

 

[TJ Casters]

highly situational... and if someone hits that stuff late in tournaments i will stand up and clap my hands while nodding my head

I know. Grundy should be left alone.

 

[SaJa]

so... say 44% vs almost 60% breaks the trait? no.

It does since Flash actually does 42% with 1 bar. lol..

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Heh if this comes true bane will get the "jax treatment" haha I mean um yeah bane is bottom 5 am I right?

bane is not bottom 5. game is too young to make those statements

 

[_xFriction]

If you want to nerf the damage from trait for Flash, I think a fair trade-off would be not losing what you have built up from clashes/transitions and such. Just my .02

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

It does since Flash actually does 42% with 1 bar. lol..

your not doing it right brother... off over head starter or low starter its 50+%

 

[Error]

Heh if this comes true bane will get the "jax treatment" haha I mean um yeah bane is bottom 5 am I right?

ur right dood

 

[Error]

your not doing it right brother... off over head starter or low starter its 50+%

He means traitless, I think.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

I know. Grundy should be left alone.

me too and i hate that asshole

 

[SaJa]

your not doing it right brother... off over head starter or low starter its 50+%

He does 40% 1 meter no trait.................... So what the point doing 44% with 20sec trait ? Having 3% more ?.....

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

people talking about flash... ever explore the mix ups you get off a knockdown and activate trait go to the lab please

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

He does 40% 1 meter no trait.................... So what the point doing 44% with 20sec trait ? Having 3% more ?.....

your thinking to close minded on the utility of this trait. it is not all for combos... he has near unblockables man!

 

[Bildslash]

Doomsday's MB Air Venom has to be an overhead on the 2nd hit.

If Aquaman's trait is going to have increased cooldown and shorter duration then you make him safer again.