Wonder Woman is the best playable demo character (without infinites)

[Faded Dreams V]

-9 = unpunishable online. Watch.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

-9 isn't death unless someone is expecting it. People fail to punish Reptile's dash OFFLINE and that's -15.

 

[Smarrgasm]

-9 isn't death unless someone is expecting it. People fail to punish Reptile's dash OFFLINE and that's -15.

Thats also with MK9s weirdo blockstun. I believe brady mentioned the blocking being much cleaner in this game, meaning you get off block quicker/smoother and transition easily into your punishes. People punish reptile dash with normals around 10-11 frames pretty normally and in this game using 6 frame moves to punish -9 would probably feel about the same.

 

[LEGEND]

Thats also with MK9s weirdo blockstun. I believe brady mentioned the blocking being much cleaner in this game, meaning you get off block quicker/smoother and transition easily into your punishes. People punish reptile dash with normals around 10-11 frames pretty normally and in this game using 6 frame moves to punish -9 would probably feel about the same.

its also worth mentioning that reptile's dash is a 6 frame move, so even at the point of blocking it, your brain hasn't even processed that the move happened yet. And at longer ranges of the move where it takes up to 13 frames to reach you the recoil animation Reptile has when his dash is blocked is very similar to that of it wiffing.
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Reptiles dash isn't hard to punish simply because of its low negative frames

 

[Exar0s]

I agree with most of what you say. She has a tool for just about every type of character (rush down, zone etc). Her damage and combo potential is excellent and her mobility is top notch. I can't wait to dig into her deeper upon release.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

She basically destroys projectile heavy characters.
Her sword stance is not being used at all.... and from what I can tell..... its the better stance for holding life leads and forcing and reacting to mistakes. Taking only half the chip damage and having a high parry as well as ways to cancel into a good combo. Her faster pokes are rangier in this stance.

I honestly think everyone is seriously good and it'll be up to the player to exploit holes in others games.

I've only played a bit of it.... and i'm still strugglign with what her bracelet parry actually can do.

 

[Peckapowa]

its also worth mentioning that reptile's dash is a 6 frame move, so even at the point of blocking it, your brain hasn't even processed that the move happened yet. And at longer ranges of the move where it takes up to 13 frames to reach you the recoil animation Reptile has when his dash is blocked is very similar to that of it wiffing.
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Reptiles dash isn't hard to punish simply because of its low negative frames

this, reptiles dash is hard to punish because the by the time blockstun activates you are just reacting to the move happening... this is a very distinct difference... wonder womans twirly thing should be very punishable because it has a long duration frames... i was just thinking though how well lex can punish backdashing which is going to be huge and he has d1 into projectile.

everything i know about mk is transferring over to this game pretty well so far i feel... theres a lot of similarities...


that being said wonder womans cross-up / jump-in mix up game is going to be annoying like kung laos i believe.

 

[Peckapowa]

wonder womans sword stance is really interesting... she has unbelievable midscreen advancing attacks that however they require meter to be effective/safe.... i would use this stance when i have a ton of meter... her d1 is amazing in this stance and she can setup standing pressure and frame traps with her shoulder charge and ex shield toss combos... back 1 and 22 are good... if you have meter to burn her shoulder can be lethal and you can create a guessing game with shoulder pressure which leaves them standing for back 1 (which is plus 7) which leads to a shoulder mixup for even a mb f3 which has retarded range... and if blocked also leads to shoulder mixup... pretty interesting... shes like a kind of savage reset pressure guessing... if you knock them down go back to lasso and maintain mobility.... really versatile character..

 

[Peckapowa]

She basically destroys projectile heavy characters.
Her sword stance is not being used at all.... and from what I can tell..... its the better stance for holding life leads and forcing and reacting to mistakes. Taking only half the chip damage and having a high parry as well as ways to cancel into a good combo. Her faster pokes are rangier in this stance.

I honestly think everyone is seriously good and it'll be up to the player to exploit holes in others games.

I've only played a bit of it.... and i'm still strugglign with what her bracelet parry actually can do.

yeah ive been playing lex and batman vs my roomie too... i think batman has the best trait in the demo and his f3 is amazing is b3 is pretty good and has a ton of advantage but these are pretty meter dependent move... his trait is really everything for him... it allows him to whiff punish zone apply pressure counter-zone get in... other than his trait hes meh in my opinion but his trait is just so goddamn good....

once lex gets a knockdown / probe or armor out hes lethal.... his corner game is probably going to be stupid with mines jumping threes.... he doesnt punish hard but he can punish just about everything... his d1 is great, sets up good 50-50s and all of his normals anti-air well... not as well as wonders uppercut or as damaging... he is a super interesting character.... his unblockable is great for trades because it gives him a knockdown which is implemental too his gameplan... i feel his weakness would be his meter dependence and mediocre damage...

all the characters have a ton of tools i am so into this game right now but i have a feeling some characters are going to be BROKEN as shit and really feel doomsday is gonna be obnoxious.

 

[Spinky]

Dandy J Lmfao, your avatar.

 

[Momentum]

been saying this since the demo was released. She's broken as fuck

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

I have to disagree.

Her B2, while seemingly looks good at start, is 17 frames and has a range of about right outside sweep distance. Luthor and Doomsday can dash it.

Canceling into Spin on block is a VERY bad idea. You're better off staggering strings if you want to do mix-ups.

Stance changes don't gain frame adv in this game, plus her SnS is kind of garbage(not going to say yet 'cause something might be found).

Yea her IAD is pretty boss if you do it on cross-up you can do Landing Aerial 1 ~ 11 hitconfirm or B11 hitconfirm if you can train your reactions.

Amazonian Uppercut, while looks cool is a SHITTY wake up. I've seen pretty much any normal beat it out. You're better off using Tiara toss MB or if you're in SnS, Amalthea Bash(Her best wake-up but is in SnS stance).

Her parry in Lasso only absorbs a hit and doesn't actually parry. Her SnS parry on the other hand is really good and on hit, you can follow up with 23. But both start-up in 4 frames which is on all levels inferior to Batman's.

Yea her D2 is bawss as AA.

Despite my downplaying though, I don't see her as a bad character. Look at this more like PL complaining about how Lao sucks when compared to Kabal , Sonya and Kenshi.

 

[Posthuman]

Lex says hi and he handicaped himself... no resets so WW can hae a chance but LBSH she doesnt.

 

[Peckapowa]

I have to disagree.

Her B2, while seemingly looks good at start, is 17 frames and has a range of about right outside sweep distance. Luthor and Doomsday can dash it.

Canceling into Spin on block is a VERY bad idea. You're better off staggering strings if you want to do mix-ups.

Stance changes don't gain frame adv in this game, plus her SnS is kind of garbage(not going to say yet 'cause something might be found).

Yea her IAD is pretty boss if you do it on cross-up you can do Landing Aerial 1 ~ 11 hitconfirm or B11 hitconfirm if you can train your reactions.

Amazonian Uppercut, while looks cool is a SHITTY wake up. I've seen pretty much any normal beat it out. You're better off using Tiara toss MB or if you're in SnS, Amalthea Bash(Her best wake-up but is in SnS stance).

Her parry in Lasso only absorbs a hit and doesn't actually parry. Her SnS parry on the other hand is really good and on hit, you can follow up with 23. But both start-up in 4 frames which is on all levels inferior to Batman's.

Yea her D2 is bawss as AA.

Despite my downplaying though, I don't see her as a bad character. Look at this more like PL complaining about how Lao sucks when compared to Kabal , Sonya and Kenshi.

yeah her wakeup sucks... but back 2 is amazing... 17 frames is great for an overhead with that range... cancelling into spin is not bad if unexpected every once in a while... trust me itll catch people... her stance change is too low...