Guide Who/What/Where of Joker's wiffs

[Jarc]

ThaShiveGeek
MetaSkipper
Gilbagz
AA25Mamba

Here ya go, if this benefits anyone. I realize this probably isn't new information to most people, but I wanted a clean graphic for my own reference. Enjoy.


Note 1: 21* refers to the second natural hit of the 21 string (3rd overall hit)

Note 2: This chart diagrams the worst-case scenario. There are circumstances where some things will hit unexpectedly (i.e. defender blocks 2 standing, crouches for the subsequent 1* & has to block both hits when normally the second would wiff). This chart is meant to establish a rule of thumb & advise appropriate caution in relevant match-ups.

 

[ThaShiveGeek]

Thanks this does help a two day Joker. Nice chart.

 

[Gilbagz]

Good shit man. Thought 2,1,2 hit everone in the corner.
Guess not

 

[laudanum09]

excellent chart.

PS The hitboxes in this game are seriously derp.

Every box should be green.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Nice portrayal dude. This should probably get sticky-ed so that it doesn't get lost in the mix; Important info until these issues get patched =)

 

[MetaSkipper]

No doubt important.

Quick question: what does 21* mean?

 

[Gilbagz]

No doubt important.

Quick question: what does 21* mean?

I think its just the second hit of the 2,1 string.

 

[Ren21]

Excellent chart, should be sticky'd

 

[Jarc]

I think its just the second hit of the 2,1 string.

MetaSkipper This guy knows. Edited post for clarity in the future.

 

[Neariak]

I demand a sticky!

 

[Qwark28]

CrimsonShadow
@gamerblake90

please sticky, this is important info.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Yeah. We need a Joker Mod!
....*nominates self*.....

 

[CrimsonShadow]

CrimsonShadow
@gamerblake90

please sticky, this is important info.

Sticky'd

 

[Qwark28]

Yeah. We need a Joker Mod!
....*nominates self*.....

thank you, id love to

 

[Gilbagz]

Guys this isnt entirely accurate btw
I found some stupid stuff like some strings only whiff in practice mode lol
I know for a fact 2,1,2 connects on Aquaman, Green Arrow and Black Adam.

 

[MetaSkipper]

Guys this isnt entirely accurate btw
I found some stupid stuff like some strings only whiff in practice mode lol
I know for a fact 2,1,2 connects on Aquaman, Green Arrow and Black Adam.

Why only in practice mode? Not like this hasn't happened before (those not actually safe wake-ups).

 

[ThaShiveGeek]

So I started playing with Joker on June 7th, and now he's my favorite character. Fuck it I'll say it. I'm almost enjoying him more then Bruce.

 

[OnlineRon91]

So does Joker still whiff mediums? or did NRS patch this nonsense out?

 

[StevoSuprem0]

I haven't tested since the patch, but there was no mention of them being fixed... I'll test them tonight/tomorrow night or something.

 

[OnlineRon91]

I haven't tested since the patch, but there was no mention of them being fixed... I'll test them tonight/tomorrow night or something.

Alright perfect. I recently updated Undertilizing b1? with the optimized mb crowbar version of it. I might do the Super Move version just for kicks when I get home.

 

[Qwark28]

still whiffs

 

[OnlineRon91]

what -_- looks like I wont be using these strings raw.

 

[rehti]

Guys, what does it mean when it says for instance F23 never hits (red cell) on Joker as Joker?

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Guys, what does it mean when it says for instance F23 never hits (red cell) on Joker as Joker?

The "3" in that string whiffs against a crouch-blocking Joker opponent. All this stuff pertains to low blocking opponents.

 

[rehti]

So its not the F2 that whiffs.. I see you talking a lot about the 21 string whiffing on a lot of the cast.... should we not just use F2 the same way superman would use it? Everything can be executed after a F2 (OH, teeth, RLG, acid). Is it too punishable to be used?