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Who is the most down played character?

Error404

Noob
Maybe that's just because not enough people are complaining. NRS is known for patching games while intoxicated hence random changes nobody asked for, but Scorpion got a slight nerf at least due to everybody getting mad. I don't even think you can call it a nerf because it just made them play smarter and more passive.
Or maybe they really don't want to JC to play like a rushdown monster again. It's not the first time they would have remade a character sadly.
If JC would get any buff , I would hope it's making f2 a mid. Since mids are literally the only thing that makes characters in this game. Just look at what happened to frost.
 

Hellbringer

1 2 3 drink
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Wait I’m not sure if I’m correct here but weren’t you one of the people adamantly downplaying scorpion?

If this is in fact true, you don’t really have a leg to stand on in here BUDDY.
Not sure what your definition of downplaying is but if telling ppl that his teleportcancel is not free pressure then yeah i was downplaying him. I never said in any post that scorpion was trash or lowtier or whatever, so i dont know what your point is.
 

GLoRToR

Have fun mashing d1, liars and hypocrites.
NRS will never buff a zoning character's damage output. Look at what they did to Shang Tsung. LOL. In general, all the character who have good space control have a below average or poor damage output.
You might be right. The problem is the risk/reward, though, increasing damage is just the obvious solution. If she becomes unFlawlessBlockable / unpunishable and remains to have the worst damage in the game we'll be fine.
 
Or maybe they really don't want to JC to play like a rushdown monster again. It's not the first time they would have remade a character sadly.
If JC would get any buff , I would hope it's making f2 a mid. Since mids are literally the only thing that makes characters in this game. Just look at what happened to frost.
Nah bro, I really believe JC is in a weird place right now honestly.

I feel when I play better players I can actually get away with going for f2/f3 /s1/s2 on block after + frames or even after nut punch, they are a lot easier to condition for whatever reason.

It’s the lower level players that are constantly mashing pokes,d2, and trying to neutral jump out of any kind of pressure, this is oddly enough when you start feeling JCs weaknesses, but then these players mostly fall for d1+nutpunch literally every single time.

JC much like Kano is one of those characters where your opponents play style will determine how YOU play the match.

Now I know you are probably thinking “what? Rodney that’s how fighting games are played all characters are like this!”

Absolutely not, Characters like Jax,Jacqui,Sonya, and geras play the exact same game no matter what their opponents are doing lol.

I don’t think JC needs a faster mid even though I’m in the camp of shaving off some frames of b3(LOL DOWNPLAYA).

And forceballs are whatever really.

I do believe that the brass knuckle buff and caged rage need looking into though honestly lol.

Scorpions burning spear looks like a teenager stealing chicken strips from a deli and Liu kang does a quick little dance.

Meanwhile Johnny is over here taking pictures and signing autographs for his buff that last like 3 seconds lmao.
 
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Or maybe they really don't want to JC to play like a rushdown monster again. It's not the first time they would have remade a character sadly.
If JC would get any buff , I would hope it's making f2 a mid. Since mids are literally the only thing that makes characters in this game. Just look at what happened to frost.
Johnny's second forceball is supposed to be a mid. Why would it work against some characters and not others?
 

Error404

Noob
Johnny's second forceball is supposed to be a mid. Why would it work against some characters and not others?
It's two highs. And it works because NRS are not good at their job. That's why he has 34d3 , which is there if your opponent is ducking 34u3 , despite 34u3 not ever acting like a high and 34xnutpunch being a better option against ducking.
I really genuinely believe NRS is making this up as they go along.
 

lionheart21

Its Game Over, Man
Premium Supporter
Or maybe they really don't want to JC to play like a rushdown monster again. It's not the first time they would have remade a character sadly.
If JC would get any buff , I would hope it's making f2 a mid. Since mids are literally the only thing that makes characters in this game. Just look at what happened to frost.
F2 as a mid has been a wish of mine for some time now. Its not as advancing as F3, so it should be a fair change.
 
Not only are you dead sexy, but 100% correct. It's a nice plus 3 in the corner, but it's not game changing.
Lmao I tried to upload a profile pic and it cut out half my face .. I don’t know why. Anyways yes I’m a jade main too, but I need to pick another character to advance to elder god . I’ve hit the wall at mid Demi god..
 
Jade's annoying af. You attempt to rush her down, get an ex glaive to the face for your troubles. If ye block ex glaive,, derp here's a low crouching d4 , thank you may I have another. Bint decides not to ex glaive, heh free jump in. Wouldn't call her OP or anything, but my personal most annoying match up. Next character I tinker with is going to give this dame more headaches mu wise. :mad:
YEs but that is all she has. Good players can block and punish . I am going to transition to nifjtwolf once I can download him separately ( didn’t buy kombat pack because I don’t like all the people announced.) I’m hoping he can give me the edge against scorpion players
 

Son ov Timett

Bork, No Jin
YEs but that is all she has. Good players can block and punish . I am going to transition to nifjtwolf once I can download him separately ( didn’t buy kombat pack because I don’t like all the people announced.) I’m hoping he can give me the edge against scorpion players
Yea already found a pretty good universal tactic that blows her up. Basically on a read from sweep range, dash forward when ye see her jump. Her glaives will whiff entirely, full combo punish. Works every time, just need to be quick with punish, as she's free to low profile check ye as soon as her feet hit the ground.
 

GLoRToR

Have fun mashing d1, liars and hypocrites.
Yea already found a pretty good universal tactic that blows her up. Basically on a read from sweep range, dash forward when ye see her jump. Her glaives will whiff entirely, full combo punish. Works every time, just need to be quick with punish, as she's free to low profile check ye as soon as her feet hit the ground.
You can literally do that with all her zoning except meterburn
 

kcd117

Noob
It has to be Sub-Zero.

The character is stupid af, has a top 5 strike/throw mixup on top of a straight fraudulent as hell traditional 50/50, dumb jump ins, dumb dashes, dumb pokes, dumb specials... the character is simply the scrubbiest shit in this game.

Somehow, on top of all of this ft2 boyz stuff, I’m also not aware of a single character in this game that is really able to beat both variations of this character.

In REO’s community tier list, Sub managed to score 11 bad matchups lol life must be hard out there when you have 50%ish conversions from a guess.
 

LarSanity

Who hired this guy
From the tweets between slverrye and kompetitor it tells me people that face johnny and go omg he's so plus he has everything.
Then when they play as johnny its oh shit you can poke or d2 him out of everything, where are his KBs his amazing zoning is a high that whiffs even if you block.

The funniest part is seeing cassie and geras mains in this thread talking shit like they werent given the best of every tool in the game.
 

GLoRToR

Have fun mashing d1, liars and hypocrites.
It has to be Sub-Zero.

The character is stupid af, has a top 5 strike/throw mixup on top of a straight fraudulent as hell traditional 50/50, dumb jump ins, dumb dashes, dumb pokes, dumb specials... the character is simply the scrubbiest shit in this game.

Somehow, on top of all of this ft2 boyz stuff, I’m also not aware of a single character in this game that is really able to beat both variations of this character.

In REO’s community tier list, Sub managed to score 11 bad matchups lol life must be hard out there when you have 50%ish conversions from a guess.
Look, I love the man but, REO's always had agenda tier lists.
 

podizzler3000

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it was a community tier list so it wouldnt really be REOs agenda. Anyway i think downplayed is geras. how people only giving him top 3 instead of #1 is pretty crazy to me still.

I played so much of him though i am gonna try a character with less tools just for the novelty.
 
You have changed your stance on throws about 6 times must be tiring to get everything to always fit your argument even when you contradict yourself lol
I have never changed my stance on throws. It's the trash that is the Johnny Cage community that keeps contradicting themselves here.

Johnny Cage community in a nutshell:
  1. Complain that throws "eat pokes" (lol)
  2. Complain that your character has no good mids and there's just no way to stop people from mashing pokes because "b-b-b-ut muh 14 frames!"
 
I have never changed my stance on throws. It's the trash that is the Johnny Cage community that keeps contradicting themselves here.

Johnny Cage community in a nutshell:
  1. Complain that throws "eat pokes" (lol)
  2. Complain that your character has no good mids and there's just no way to stop people from mashing pokes because "b-b-b-ut muh 14 frames!"
Lol.