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UFGT10: X - What would you like to see improved?

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
CurlyW thanks for taking time to read and reply in detail. To address some of the concerns you've raised:

-As far as quality being lowered due to bandwidth issues, I'm sure that if GGA were allowed to stream additional pools, they'd be operating on 4G; whoch wouldn't affect any other streams.

-Likewise with regard to professionalism, I don't forsee any issues with GGA as long as there is a clear understanding. If you watch Delriach and Medina's commentary, they've been nothing less than a class act, and I don't think they'd have been selected for EVO otherwise.

If it was made clear, I have the utmost faith in GGA that they'd uphold the expected standards of decency, in addition to running the ads they were expected to run.

-As far as Top 8 timing, I do believe there's a rough concept of 'prime time' in the FGC, analogous to TV and fighting sports. While it makes since that the best possible times would be reserved for the absolute biggest draws and sponsor games, I don't think anyone would have complained if IGAU was at 12pm, even if it was on Stream 2.

But at 7 or 8 AM PST, most of the west coast isn't comfortably awake yet, especially on the weekend. That's understandable for a game with few entrants, or even MK in its current state -- but seems out of place for a marquee game like IGAU.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Also although Divekick was mentioned because it was sponsored by Iron Galaxy; but just as much if not more of the Mystery Game tournament ended up in relative prime time, and as far as I know Mystery Game wasn't sponsored by anyone.

Now I'm saying this as someone who absolutely loves the mystery game tournament and really enjoyed watching it at UFGT8. But most of the people who play Mystery Game were there to play IGAU, SF, and MVC etc. So if the scheduling requires moving one of the most popular games, one people were buying plane tickets for, to a beginning-of-the-morning timeslot, doesn't that indicate that priorities may be off?
 

CurlyW

Noob
AK Pig Of The Hut I'll go through your questions one by one.

Community Stream: So it's looking like UFGT10 will have 3 official streams running during the event. However, it has been our policy not to allow any "non-official" streams, which includes any and all community streams, regardless of community (Tekken, KoF, Injustice, Guilty Gear, any of them). This isn't personal, it's just our policy. We want to ensure that all our streams are of the highest quality--in terms of visuals, content, and commentary--and we feel that most community streams at tournaments such as NEC don't measure up to what we're trying to deliver. One thing I didn't mention before is that we feel that having more streams results in more self-competition, which is something we want to avoid.

As I said in my post, we do allow communities to record matches. Tekken semifinals and the Guilty Gear side tournament were both recorded at UFGT9, and I believe Medina recorded many MK matches at UFGT8. (I'm sure Medina would have been there at UFGT9 to record again had he not been busy with school.) Obviously recording is not as ideal as live streaming, but it's better than nothing.

Now, if we were to change our minds and allow communities to stream using 4G, we would ask that all volunteer community streamers be in close contact with us so they can use our overlays, and all commentators on community streams would need to sign a contract detailing what they can and cannot say while on stream before we would permit them to do commentary. We don't want a situation like what happened on the anime stream at NEC (see my earlier post).

System: I can 100% say we are switching to XBox360 for NRS games. We used PS3 last year because we thought that was what people preferred, as a significant number of players used PS pads. As the community now prefers 360 for NRS games, that is what we will get.

Seed Points: This is the first I am aware of this happening. I personally had no contact with the Evo organizers at all prior to brackets being unveiled. I know that we weren't able to give out seed point cards at the venue at UFGT9 as they had gotten lost in the chaos of setting up on Thursday. But that applied to all Evo games last year, not just MK9. And either way, not having the cards shouldn't have had any affect on receiving seed points for Evo. (I know this because the Persona 4 placers all received their Evo points.) I would like to know more about the specifics of what happened. Send me a DM with more specifics.

Stream Time Slots: Something I didn't touch on in my earlier post was that when we were making the schedule, we felt that a game's Top 8 being on the main stream on Sunday was preferable to it being on the side stream on Sunday, regardless of time. Obviously, we were mistaken. I'd be lying if I said that personal preference didn't play a role in determining parts of the schedule (hence why SFxT Top 8 was at 9 am on the side stream on Sunday), but I mean it when I say neither of us had it in for Injustice or MK when we made the final schedule. We thought it was fine, but we were very clearly wrong.

I will say that now that we know which time slots are actually preferred (and we're not living in a dream land where 9:30am is okay regardless of which stream its on), we will do our best to be fairer about our decisions when making the schedule. I can't say that number of entrants will be the only factor in determining the schedule (sponsors may also play a role) but we will be more transparent about our decision-making process.

Tekken: Tekken actually had 74 entrants at UFGT9. Tekken was only on stream once all weekend, which was the Top 8 on Saturday afternoon. (It wasn't streamed more due to its entrants because it had a significant number of emergency registrants.) It ran long because they wanted to run it 3 out of 5 for Top 8 and since I was desperate at that point for a game community to NOT hate me, I said okay. That was a poor decision on my part.

4G & Hotel Internet: This isn't my area of expertise. Keits is the one that handles the deal with the venue. I believe (though I'm not 100% sure) that the internet comes with the package for renting out the ballroom at the hotel. I'm also pretty sure that Keits specifies what he needs from the internet the hotel provides in the contract. I don't think it's as expensive or as unreliable as you say. As far as the relative cost & benefits of 4G cards vs. hotel internet, I would have to defer to somebody else on this topic.

CrimsonShadow As for your concerns:

Commentary: Yes, Delriach and Medina always do a great job on commentary. But if you're streaming all day, they're not always going to be there to do commentary. They may be playing in a match, they may be getting food, they may just be taking a break. Other people will be on commentary too. If Delriach, Medina, Steve, and Tom Brady work out some sort of rotation so that two of them are always on commentary throughout the day, then maybe, but in the chaos of tournaments, I don't know how likely that is. And don't forget, we would also require somebody running the stream at all times. LevelUp has two guys that trade off running the entire operation every few hours for as long as the stream is live (i.e. most of the weekend). If HAN and somebody else are willing to ensure that the NRS community stream is manned all of Friday and Saturday, then I suppose we can at least discuss it.

Mystery Game: The way Mystery Game Top 8 has worked at UFGTs 7, 8, and 9 is that rounds interwoven between the Top 8's for the other tournaments on Sunday. The first two rounds of Mystery Game top 8 (winners semis and losers top 8) were actually run at 9am on Sunday, before Injustice. Then the next two rounds (losers quarters and losers semis) were run between Injustice and SF4, the next rounds (winners finals and losers finals) were between SF4 and DK, and then grand finals was held between DK and MvC3. We do this because the Mystery Game tournament involves a lot of setup, and it would take longer to run it all in one block than it does to run rounds between the other games.

Let me know if you want me to answer anything else.
 

Delriach

Sindelly
I'm all for doing commentary again. I'll be more than happy to switch off with others (like Brady, 16bit, pig, etc). I'm not sure what Medina is up to but it would be awesome to team up again like we always have. And if Ultradavid goes this year maybe he can join in too. I know he's still interested in Injustice and talks about it frequently.

And if someone needs to be at the stream setup I can be there too. It's been awhile since I've done anything like that but I can get a quick refresher course by then.

At the end of the day, I just want UFGT10: X to be awesome for the MK guys. And I'm not going to say "screw this" and be done with it because people were unhappy. There's always room for improvements and there's no reason why we can't work as a community to make sure things are back to being awesome.

And I really want MK to have a nice presence. I know most people aren't in their prime anymore but maybe if we treat UFGT like a major for MK then things could be different. Everyone can start practicing again. It'll be fun. At the very least, we have to do a team tourney.
 

AU_IM_DIGIMON

Kombatant
LOL I laugh when people complain about the stream time for Injustice. You folks really need to stop. You had MORE stream time than EVERY primary fighting game featured at the tournament.

Be at finals on time. The tournament shouldn't revolve around exceptional players expecting favoritism due to lack of responsibility. IDGAF how early it was. Plan ahead.

I'm not gonna type a huge rant about UFGT9. I had fun and enjoyed being official staff. Not sure if I'm going this year. I kinda quit the FGC (scene turned into a joke IMO) and won't play competitively anymore. But if I go, it'll be solely to help/support keits.

It's his tourney, his rules. Don't like it, keep your ass at home...YOU WILL BE REPLACED. I wish some folks would stop acting spoiled.
 

Medina4life

Media Master
I'm a ghost of the community...

Anywho, GGA HAN, you should have posted that pic earlier mang. I feel bad now.

I'll be at UFGT, not sure if I'll enter anything like last year. Probably that MK side tourney..

If you guys need help with something I wouldn't mind.