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[RM AtK!]

Who here has looked into the insanely big patch notes that is coming out for DotA 2 that has just been released? As an avid DotA player who has over 900+ hours of game time invested, I was extremely stoked reading some of these changes. Some of them are EXTREME like having both sides of the river now spawn runes every minute (two in total) and introducing a completely new "Bounty" rune. Some heroes have been completely reworked and redesigned, mostly the ones who are not chosen much in competitive play such as Rikimaru, Bara, Stygwer, and etc. etc. Also an entirely new item has been created and Roshan's pit has been altered with new landscape surrounding it.

Here's a list to all of the changes coming some time in the next couple of months - http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/

What do you DotA players think? Like any changes? Dislike any? Discuss what you think the meta will evolve to, or what heroes you may see rise into high tier. I for one, cannot wait for this giant patch to hit and to play around and explore with so many things. Also my favorite hero (Gondar) got a buff.

gondar didnt need it

 

[EGGXI]

Ogre Magi now is literally an unkillable spell spamming machine. Base health regen up and the change to the Bloodstone recipe means he can just go Soul Ring, boots, Bloodstone etc.

EDIT: Also even though they nerfed the damage of fireblast the buff to the chances of multicasting are more than enough to make up for it.

 

[haketh]

Ogre Magi now is literally an unkillable spell spamming machine. Base health regen up and the change to the Bloodstone recipe means he can just go Soul Ring, boots, Bloodstone etc.

EDIT: Also even though they nerfed the damage of fireblast the buff to the chances of multicasting are more than enough to make up for it.

Yeah the health regen is pretty nuts on top of his base armor.

 

[EGGXI]

Yeah the health regen is pretty nuts on top of his base armor.

I'm petitioning to rename him RNGBeast

 

[deathblooms2k4]

This patch is going to be nuts. I can't wait. I'll be at ESL One in New York early October with some friends. I hope the patch goes live before then. This patch is going to completely revamp the meta.

 

[Zyphox]

I like the rework blood seeker is getting, PL though I think will be hilarious now and I just started using him that one game we played, 50% illusion chance? Does he still get spell resistance like phantom edge ?

 

[Pnut]

gondar didnt need it

gondar was pretty shit in the meta. He needed a buff.

I'm very surprised Skywrath didn't get a movement speed nerf. His base movement speed was faster than some heros with level 1 boots. Tinker nerfs were great. Doom probably needed a little more. And we will see where this Void chrono nerf goes. Hopefully the current meta will cease to exist. I'm looking forward to coming back after taking a break from the atrocity that was tinker/void/doom every game.

 

[Zyphox]

gondar was pretty shit in the meta. He needed a buff.

I'm very surprised Skywrath didn't get a movement speed nerf. His base movement speed was faster than some heros with level 1 boots. Tinker nerfs were great. Doom probably needed a little more. And we will see where this Void chrono nerf goes. Hopefully the current meta will cease to exist. I'm looking forward to coming back after taking a break from the atrocity that was tinker/void/doom every game.

me and reo play all the time but everyone that used to play stopped playing with us *looks at @CcTrust * add me on steam drzyphox.

 

[Pnut]

me and reo play all the time but everyone that used to play stopped playing with us *looks at @CcTrust * add me on steam drzyphox.

I'll play once the patch hits assuming I don't have school shit to do.

 

[deathblooms2k4]

gondar was pretty shit in the meta. He needed a buff.

I'm very surprised Skywrath didn't get a movement speed nerf. His base movement speed was faster than some heros with level 1 boots. Tinker nerfs were great. Doom probably needed a little more. And we will see where this Void chrono nerf goes. Hopefully the current meta will cease to exist. I'm looking forward to coming back after taking a break from the atrocity that was tinker/void/doom every game.

There is no doubt that it'll cease to exist. The rosh pit change drastically effects direside advantage. The rune changes throws the meta on its head since your team is going to have to actively work together for rune control it's no longer pick a good mid for it or just rotate a couple supports. Lastly and the thing that will probably have the largest impact on the current meta is your team getting fortification refreshed after a tower goes down in addition to the T2's getting extra armor.

The 5 man heavy push deathballs that currently plague the current meta got nerfed pretty hard with these changes. I think you are going to see a lot more gank heavy lineups, heroes that are strong early and can snowball. I worry for heroes like Anti-Mage and spectre though as I see no place for farm dependent low utility heroes with these changes.

 

[Pnut]

There is no doubt that it'll cease to exist. The rosh pit change drastically effects direside advantage. The rune changes throws the meta on its head since your team is going to have to actively work together for rune control it's no longer pick a good mid for it or just rotate a couple supports. Lastly and the thing that will probably have the largest impact on the current meta is your team getting fortification refreshed after a tower goes down in addition to the T2's getting extra armor.

The 5 man heavy push deathballs that currently plague the current meta got nerfed pretty hard with these changes. I think you are going to see a lot more gank heavy lineups, heroes that are strong early and can snowball. I worry for heroes like Anti-Mage and spectre though as I see no place for farm dependent low utility heroes with these changes.

We will probably see NightStalker return to the meta then which is awesome.

 

[Zyphox]

also RIP courier 4 second boost with a 90 second cooldown? GG no re.

 

[deathblooms2k4]

also RIP courier 4 second boost with a 90 second cooldown? GG no re.

flying courier got a significant increase in it's move speed. I think it'll be a lot better. The speed boost will actually be used to micro it and escape from death or quickly get an item for a time crucial team fight or push like it was originally intended for. As opposed to currently where people just spam it whenever it's off cool down.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

New Support Tank item?

Now I can heed Zyphox's advice to dive a tower with 5 enemies under it as Crystal maiden.

"Blink in and ult bro"... LOL

 

[Dizzy]

Havent played in so long lol, watching TI I didnt even know lots of the changes that had happened before. Like I saw a vid where apparently axes ult resets cooldown on kill apparently? Didnt even know that lol. So hard to keep up with all the changes unless youre constantly playing

 

[deathblooms2k4]

Havent played in so long lol, watching TI I didnt even know lots of the changes that had happened before. Like I saw a vid where apparently axes ult resets cooldown on kill apparently? Didnt even know that lol. So hard to keep up with all the changes unless youre constantly playing

It comes back pretty quick though. And at it's core most of the heroes play similar to what you remember. How the instinct canceling coming with your wulf?

 

[Dizzy]

It comes back pretty quick though. And at it's core most of the heroes play similar to what you remember. How the instinct canceling coming with your wulf?

Only had an hour or two to mess with it, but looks interesting. Will take some time to figure out how to use it optimally.

 

[REO]

You are an NRS God... played nearly 1000 hours of DotA and can't figure out how to get the TE hacks to work on your PC... smh

<3 @R.E.O.

@9.95 please help this guy out!

Yeah, well... It's like complicated, dude. I tried once for a while and kept failing, so I just gave up, lolol.

Personally I'm looking forward to it a ton. Treant, Bane, Bounty Hunter, Earth Spirit, Elder Titan, & Chen changes hero wise & I like how I think the Rune change is gonna impact support & mid. Mid especially is going to be a lot more interesting due to Rune, Bottle, & Deny changes. It's gonna be alot more active than it was last patch.

Also hell yeah more Lina buffs for the millionths time.

Showing hot big of an impact the XP & Gold changes are

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What the hell?? Is that gold thing legit and accurate? So NOW if I kill somebody I get FIVE TIMES the amount of gold I would usually get? One kill will net almost 4k on average? That's ludicrous...

I like the rework blood seeker is getting, PL though I think will be hilarious now and I just started using him that one game we played, 50% illusion chance? Does he still get spell resistance like phantom edge ?

No, I'm pretty sure he lost his magic resistance on illusions. And he also lost his invisibility.

gondar was pretty shit in the meta. He needed a buff.

+1.

me and reo play all the time but everyone that used to play stopped playing with us *looks at @CcTrust * add me on steam drzyphox.

I stopped playing too for a while mainly because of slight lost in ineterest and the fact that I spend most of my free gaming time on Outbreak now. This giant patch definitely got me interested again in DotA, though.

New Support Tank item?

Now I can heed Zyphox's advice to dive a tower with 5 enemies under it as Crystal maiden.

"Blink in and ult bro"... LOL

lolol.

 

[9.95]

Yeah, well... It's like complicated, dude. I tried once for a while and kept failing, so I just gave up, lolol.

I'll take care of that this weekend.

 

[haketh]

What the hell?? Is that gold thing legit and accurate? So NOW if I kill somebody I get FIVE TIMES the amount of gold I would usually get? One kill will net almost 4k on average? That's ludicrous...

That's only if you're waaaaaaay behind, note the level difference between AM & CM in the pic

 

[RM AtK!]

me and reo play all the time but everyone that used to play stopped playing with us *looks at @CcTrust * add me on steam drzyphox.

lol hey noww... i played yesterday though with reo and big d's brother

 

[RM AtK!]

gondar was pretty shit in the meta. He needed a buff.

I'm very surprised Skywrath didn't get a movement speed nerf. His base movement speed was faster than some heros with level 1 boots. Tinker nerfs were great. Doom probably needed a little more. And we will see where this Void chrono nerf goes. Hopefully the current meta will cease to exist. I'm looking forward to coming back after taking a break from the atrocity that was tinker/void/doom every game.

please don't give reo fuel for his pretend fire

 

[Breakin Wordzz]

Whats the point of playing dota 2 when u can play league. the only people that play dota are Europeans.

 

[RM AtK!]

Whats the point of playing dota 2 when u can play league. the only people that play dota are Europeans.

Please go away lol

 

[REO]

I'll take care of that this weekend.

I won't be home this weekend. But I'll see if I can possibly do something Sunday night. I'll PM you.

That's only if you're waaaaaaay behind, note the level difference between AM & CM in the pic

Oh, OK. So being behind now isn't a death sentence that requires the Gods to be by your side to make a come back. I can dig that.

Whats the point of playing dota 2 when u can play league. the only people that play dota are Europeans.

DotA is considered to have more depth and is more rewarding to the better player / team.

But it all comes down to preference in the end. Like for example, I dislike League for the cartoony and anime like style above anything else.