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ToX

ToX

Mortal
Name who and why you think they are a top tier zoning character!
1. Freddy - full screen frame traps, many tools to work with, very fast projectiles, nightmare stance,teleport to get away
2. Kenshi - His specials aren't projectiles, but physical attacks, cannot be shaken or shadow flashed, has armor, b,f,2 is insane, decent damage output.
3. Kabal - 0 frame ground saw on startup, iAGB, NDC, armor, nuff said
4. Noob Saibot - Overhead projectile, low projectile, teleport, blackholes for mindgames / resets, and a deadly AA
5. Sindel - iAFB, fireballs in air are angled towards ground, levi cancels for mind games , low fireball.
 
STRYKIE

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
No upknee mention for Noob? (edit: nevermind, I think deadly AA is referring to that)

Ugh, zoning has been taken so far out of context.. GG Vanilla SF4 Sagat.
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
so zoning tools=damage,"many tools to work with" even thought you don't say which, armour,levi cancels for MIND GAMES,NDC and armour?
all this bs without mentioning upknee

do you know what zoning is lol
 
ToX

ToX

Mortal
Qwark28 said:
so zoning tools=damage,"many tools to work with" even thought you don't say which, armour,levi cancels for MIND GAMES,NDC and armour?
all this bs without mentioning upknee

do you know what zoning is lol
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Reading must be difficult for you. Deadly AA = upknee, just shows you either can't read or you just don't know what an AA is (which I doubt). Yes Levi Cancels for mind games, what are they there for, to look cool? I use it to bait projectiles or jumps aka throwing off the opponent , if you think that is bs then please don't come to a thread talking about zoning.

And M2dave I agree, kenshi's b,f,2 stacked with rk can make him hell at mid range, kenshi has so many options mid range that if you're half decent at making good reads they will get raped back to full screen.

And yes the first 3 regardless rape the bottom 2 in terms of zoning... well even as a whole.
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
ToX said:
Reading must be difficult for you. Deadly AA = upknee, just shows you either can't read or you just don't know what an AA is (which I doubt). Yes Levi Cancels for mind games, what are they there for, to look cool? I use it to bait projectiles or jumps aka throwing off the opponent , if you think that is bs then please don't come to a thread talking about zoning.

And M2dave I agree, kenshi's b,f,2 stacked with rk can make him hell at mid range, kenshi has so many options mid range that if you're half decent at making good reads they will get raped back to full screen.

And yes the first 3 regardless rape the bottom 2 in terms of zoning... well even as a whole.
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so the upknee is just an AA?and what the fuck is deadly about 8%?

oh so if i think you're wrong i shouldn't come to this thread?LOL.

levi cancels,lol what exactly are you baiting and which kind of player?scrubs?only scrubs would jump and the only time sindels gonna get zoned is if the opps zoning is just as good or if theres a huge lifelead.
 
ToX

ToX

Mortal
Qwark28 said:
so the upknee is just an AA?and what the fuck is deadly about 8%?

oh so if i think you're wrong i shouldn't come to this thread?LOL.

levi cancels,lol what exactly are you baiting and which kind of player?scrubs?only scrubs would jump and the only time sindels gonna get zoned is if the opps zoning is just as good or if theres a huge lifelead.
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Lol... Only a moron like you would not interpret noob saibot's AA as his Upknee. Typical moron looking for any argument he can find. And yes, Levi cancels work, I played FOREVER SWAGG a month ago and I baited a jump or two from him by doing that, but I guess you're so much better than him and he's a "scrub" huh?













Also, Reptile's projectiles are more for getting in I feel like, and Cyrax's bombs are more for baiting nets, not zoning, but yes nonetheless they are both good from mid/full screen.
 
ToX

ToX

Mortal
teh_jawNie said:
Ermac??????
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Ermac is pretty good, but full screen he is worthless, especially against freddy, kabal, kenshi


Though ermac is solid midscreen, his force push and force lift (to start combos) have a pretty big hitbox (especially force push)
 
KH_Captain

KH_Captain

Nightwolf wannabe
Zoning is a tactic in 2D fighters usually used at mid-range or far mid-range, the purpose of which is to out-prioritize your enemy's moves. The idea is to space yourself so that you are in a position to respond to or punish any entry angle or attack of your opponent's. Ideally, you can use certain pokes and attacks to beat your opponent's attacks, punish his advances or jumps, and hopefully shut down his offensive options, while landing hits. In attempting to zone, it is important to know the properties of your own attacks as well as the attacks of your opponent, in order to find the best move to use in countering your opponent's move. The ability to predict your opponent's next move, and having good reflexes to react to that move, are also important. Zoning does not mean the person with the best projectile though this helps in the zoning game. so to say zoning is bad in this game is just a false statement there are a lot of characters who zone efficiently including sindel noob ermac reptile sub zero liu kang skarlet etc.
 
peachyO

peachyO

Apprentice
my 5 picks, in no real order are as follows. i picked them based on how important zoning is to their game, how many zoning tools they have, and how effective they are at using them:

kabal: iagb, low projectile. both incredibly fast, with amazing recovery.
kenshi: no real projectiles, but multiple safe, armored tools for keeping enemies at bay.
freddy: fast high and low projectiles which are speedy on recovery and many non-projectile zoning tools (ground claws, teleports) for creating space.
shang tsung: any debate?! 7 out of 8 specials are projectiles; his game revolves ENTIRELY on zoning. up skulls, ground skulls, and flaming skulls create intense pressure and a nearly impregnable wall of zoning. 40%+ combos, all unbreakerable and performed entirely with projectiles.
sindel: multiple fast and damaging projectiles, including low hitting and ia ones. without a teleport, nearly impossible to break through her barrage.
 
Error

Error

DF2+R2
ToX said:
Ermac is pretty good, but full screen he is worthless, especially against freddy, kabal, kenshi


Though ermac is solid midscreen, his force push and force lift (to start combos) have a pretty big hitbox (especially force push)
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As an Ermac player, I prefer having Kabal at full screen and Kenshi outside SC range. Only Freddy gives Ermac a lot of trouble because he can punish anything Ermac does with a spike.
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
ToX said:
Lol... Only a moron like you would not interpret noob saibot's AA as his Upknee. Typical moron looking for any argument he can find. And yes, Levi cancels work, I played FOREVER SWAGG a month ago and I baited a jump or two from him by doing that, but I guess you're so much better than him and he's a "scrub" huh?













Also, Reptile's projectiles are more for getting in I feel like, and Cyrax's bombs are more for baiting nets, not zoning, but yes nonetheless they are both good from mid/full screen.
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Only a moron like you would insult without reading what he wrote,you said so yourself.

think before you speak,dumbass.

lol online.

also LOL at cyraxs bombs not being zoning tools.
 
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