The Running Klone Does Not Function Properly (Worst Whiffing Issue in NRS History)

[Wetdoba]

The video speaks for itself. The move is suppose to occupy a "ton of space" due to it being slow and not staying on hit disallowing consistent trades, so you'd think that he would at least be able to call out the advancing special moves in the game when they are just thrown out in neutral but that is not the case. This needs to be fixed in the next patch as the klone being over 20 frames of start up makes all of these moves reactable punishes in neutral against a character that was advertised as a "premier zoners" signature projectile.

Just look at that shoulder

 

[fr stack]

@anyone at nrs who gives a shit
Great work bro should do grounded upknee in the corner next!

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

he's not a zoner tho.....

but yeah
this move is hot caca.

But also this is a feature of the game... shared closely with our good friend Johnny Cage.

 

[Wetdoba]

he's not a zoner tho.....

but yeah
this move is hot caca.

But also this is a feature of the game... shared closely with our good friend Johnny Cage.

But hes suppose to be, just like this move is suppose to actually hit these moves

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

But hes suppose to be, just like this move is suppose to actually hit these moves

he's supposed to have a zoning variation yep

but his best one currently is def. not a zoner

i'm just giving you shit bro. I appreciate the good vid. I wish on every thing you paused where they "collide". That would be even more epic.

 

[JTC]

he's not a zoner tho.....

but yeah
this move is hot caca.

But also this is a feature of the game... shared closely with our good friend Johnny Cage.

Bruh hes the "premiere zoner" dont disrespect noob like that

 

[One Inch Punch]

this move is garbage

 

[Wetdoba]

he's supposed to have a zoning variation yep

but his best one currently is def. not a zoner

i'm just giving you shit bro. I appreciate the good vid. I wish on every thing you paused where they "collide". That would be even more epic.

I attached one screen just for Shao showing that it cant even hit the biggest character in the game so theres that

 

[Marinjuana]

Dark Sabbath isn't a zoner, Seeing Double is.

Yeah I agree that's the most egregious looking whiffing issue in the game right now. I think they might not have wanted it to have as much priority as the animation would lead to you believe, but you can tell how weak it is by how little faith Noob players have in the move in neutral.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Someone taught me long ago that if you can't think of anything wise or kind to say, just say "banana".

This is one of those times.

I wonder how many inconsistencies and anomalies have to happen, or if they literally have to happen in an EVO Top 8, before anyone of any vast importance actually addresses it?

I mean, Banana.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Well, to be fair... he's a form of Sub Zero, so:

#WorkingAsIntended

considering NRS hates sub zero.

 

[Vslayer]

But also this is a feature of the game... shared closely with our good friend Johnny Cage.

What do you mean? Cage is top 5.

Oh wait, wrong Cage.

 

[M2Dave]

this move is garbage

Yeah, Noob players have known since the first week of the game's release. Nonetheless, the video is a great compilation by Wetdoba.

I have not followed the scene as closely as I usually do because I was on vacation, but do any high level players even use Noob any more? The character seems to be getting worse and worse as the game develops, as I suspected.

 

[Wetdoba]

Yeah, Noob players have known since the first week of the game's release. Nonetheless, the video is a great compilation by Wetdoba.

I have not followed the scene as closely as I usually do because I was on vacation, but do any high level players even use Noob any more? The character seems to be getting worse and worse as the game develops, as I suspected.

I had known about Subzero going under and Raiden/Kano etc going over since day 1 but when I recently had a Shao Kahn mash shoulder straight through it I had enough. Legit just the biggest character in the game going straight through the middle for a full combo

 

[trufenix]

Yeah, noobs got problems. Poor baby.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Yeah, Noob players have known since the first week of the game's release. Nonetheless, the video is a great compilation by Wetdoba.

I have not followed the scene as closely as I usually do because I was on vacation, but do any high level players even use Noob any more? The character seems to be getting worse and worse as the game develops, as I suspected.

anyone who used him.... and wanted to use his playstyle just moved to Scorpion or Cassie

They both occupy his space better than he does, as well as play the strike/throw way better.

He isn't really "bad" .... he just isn't "as good".

Searing Rage Scorpion is literally just "better noob"

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Dark Sabbath isn't a zoner, Seeing Double is.

Yeah I agree that's the most egregious looking whiffing issue in the game right now. I think they might not have wanted it to have as much priority as the animation would lead to you believe, but you can tell how weak it is by how little faith Noob players have in the move in neutral.

Seeing Double might as well be called "RUN THROUGH MY PROJECTILES"
cuz thats what every character does

cuz they can

and it works.

and he sucks.

 

[Olcadan13]

well you see here when you actually check the compilcated lore statistics and physical properties you will see that when someone runs on a running clone, they cancel eachother out so this is working as intended buy the kombat pack $30 on playstation store available now

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

ive had the clone hit under my pinky toe while jumping it and knock me down but ive also superman right through it so the hitbox is some wonky shit

 

[M2Dave]

He isn't really "bad" .... he just isn't "as good".

I agree.

I think the problem is that b+1,1+3 is unsafe on block while the shadow tackle is embarrassingly bad for five different reasons. Meanwhile, the top tier characters have access to safe 9-frame mid attacks that can be hit-confirmed and superior zoning. You have therefore no reason to use Noob. Why work harder for less reward.

 

[Wetdoba]

I agree.

I think the problem is that b+1,1+3 is unsafe on block while the shadow tackle is embarrassingly bad for five different reasons. Meanwhile, the top tier characters have access to safe 9-frame mid attacks that can be hit-confirmed and superior zoning. You have therefore no reason to use Noob. Why work harder for less reward.

B1 1+3 being situationally unsafe is fine, it is meant to be a get off me move on a call out and the other mid mashing characters just need to be normalized. The main issue with him is his lackluster space control and inability to get damage off whiff punishing. The klones need to be faster and hit people so they can control space actually well in neutral and then B3 KB should be changed to punish requirement so he gets a clean whiff punish into damage to cash out once per game

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

B1 1+3 being situationally unsafe is fine, it is meant to be a get off me move on a call out and the other mid mashing characters just need to be normalized. The main issue with him is his lackluster space control and inability to get damage off whiff punishing. The klones need to be faster and hit people so they can control space actually well in neutral and then B3 KB should be changed to punish requirement so he gets a clean whiff punish into damage to cash out once per game

he whif punishes like a boss what are you smoking?

b3 tele amp is like 360 damage

 

[Marinjuana]

Seeing Double might as well be called "RUN THROUGH MY PROJECTILES"
cuz thats what every character does

cuz they can

and it works.

and he sucks.

What's your point man

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

What's your point man

same as yours I suppose

 

[Marinjuana]

same as yours I suppose

Now I'm confused. What's my point?