Lol, cages game is all about pokes and normals. Mainly revolving around frame advantage. Hit up playpal. His cage is pretty beast man.Just wondering If anyone have found any good poke strings or when to poke and how to poke because I dont think its used enough considering how good it is also what is d4 useful for? all ideas are open.
Dude did you change your psn?Lol, cages game is all about pokes and normals. Mainly revolving around frame advantage. Hit up playpal. His cage is pretty beast man.
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I just made a new one cause I got tired of the X's in my name, but I got all sentimental and could leave my old one. ^_^ Guess I should change it back on my profile.Dude did you change your psn?
The B3 totally outplays the D1 though, if theyre gonna retaliate you may aswell take 30% off than just poke them, thats what the back dash is for. I think only Reptile can punish the B3. B3 > Mileenas D4 anyway, she isnt a bad matchup for him at all IMO. I'm not gonna accept that she could possibly be a bad match up until she actually can prevent Cage from moving forward or escape easily.Iirc f4 is +1 on block , so the most obvious setup is d1 wich will interrupt any move your opponent is gonna do ( unless armor ) and if they jump they're gonna eat a combo , now d1 on hit is -1 on crouch block and 0 on hit ( playpal can you confirm? ) so it doesn't stop your opponent from poking again , d3 should be something like +2/+3 on hit so it gives an almost guaranteed f3 ( on block it's at disadvantage around -5 ) but it can be jumped out of , now that's where b3 comes in , after every string / poke if the opponent feels like poking with a fast normal to interrupt cages' rushdown he can just backdash making your poke whiff and catch you with b3 wich will also cover crossjumps thanks to the huge vertical ( and horizontal ) hitbox.
B3 is 11 frames and somewhat punishable on block but it has pushback so not everyone is going to punish it especially if done max range and even if you get in with a string ( always character depending ) Cage can just use the disadvantage and Ex Nutpunch into more pressure.
There are plenty of b3 setups and i don't see them used a lot , my sparring partner Sandman uses b3 in his game from lotta time and we both agree that it's one of his most powerful tools against anyone and especially vs some of his "bad MU" like Mileena to counter their keepaway ( mostly d4 )
I agree 80% on the b3>d1 , thing is b3 can be punished from contact range by almost anyone in the cast where d1 is safer and punishes jumps , since i play a lot vs Cage i can make a read of your backdash into b3 and just dash forward into block wich will allow me to punish it where d1 will not be punishable or again if i read your backdash into b3 i can just backdash and whiff punish your b3 , in the end it's all about making reads vs Cage.The B3 totally outplays the D1 though, if theyre gonna retaliate you may aswell take 30% off than just poke them, thats what the back dash is for. I think only Reptile can punish the B3. B3 > Mileenas D4 anyway, she isnt a bad matchup for him at all IMO. I'm not gonna accept that she could possibly be a bad match up until she actually can prevent Cage from moving forward or escape easily.
I think saying B3 is easily punished is a great overstatement. Atleast half the cast if not more cant punish it on block. Reptile, KL, Raiden, JC, NW and Jax are the only ones I can think of but there is probably a few more.I agree 80% on the b3>d1 , thing is b3 can be punished from contact range by almost anyone in the cast where d1 is safer and punishes jumps , since i play a lot vs Cage i can make a read of your backdash into b3 and just dash forward into block wich will allow me to punish it where d1 will not be punishable or again if i read your backdash into b3 i can just backdash and whiff punish your b3 , in the end it's all about making reads vs Cage.
Also i never thinked Mileena as a bad MU for Cage ( that's why i said "bad matchup" ) , that's just silly , 80% of her tools are useless against him and she has no armor other than her Xray and her d4 can be whiff punished hard by b3.
Love them 80% lol ( was in a rush when writing that tbh )I think saying B3 is easily punished is a great overstatement. Atleast half the cast if not more cant punish it on block. Reptile, KL, Raiden, JC, NW and Jax are the only ones I can think of but there is probably a few more.
Cages backdash isn't that great, pressing and holding back is better in most situations as he is one of the characters who takes a giant first step when backpedaling
Also, you love using 80%
The fact that you have to make a read about the B3 and therefore hold block is your disadvantage, having a certain move but not using it can be just as usefulI agree 80% on the b3>d1 , thing is b3 can be punished from contact range by almost anyone in the cast where d1 is safer and punishes jumps , since i play a lot vs Cage i can make a read of your backdash into b3 and just dash forward into block wich will allow me to punish it where d1 will not be punishable or again if i read your backdash into b3 i can just backdash and whiff punish your b3 , in the end it's all about making reads vs Cage.
Also i never thinked Mileena as a bad MU for Cage ( that's why i said "bad matchup" ) , that's just silly , 80% of her tools are useless against him and she has no armor other than her Xray and her d4 can be whiff punished hard by b3.
Yeah but that can be said even from the opponent , you still have to make a read and think your opponent will lowpoke in order to walk back b3 wich can be punished either on block or whiff , pretty fair if you ask me this has been used against me from lots of time and never got real problems with it , it's not like i've been fighting "d1 allday ftw" Cages.The fact that you have to make a read about the B3 and therefore hold block is your disadvantage, having a certain move but not using it can be just as useful
I totally understand. I'm feeling the same..I feel like I've kinda plateaued with my JC game, getting poked out of my pressure and what not.
On that note, I played a guy who's JC pressure consisted of doing 44 over and over again. I almost lost. Sometimes the stupidest shit is the hardest to get around lol.I totally understand. I'm feeling the same..
ontopic: 44 works great for me when I expect them to poke.