Stealth Changes With 8/31 Patch (and 9-1 HOTFIX)

[MadeOfMetal]

• D'vorah's Swarm Queen: F11 RC is basically gone...
• Looking like Raiden's LRC in thunder god has been tampered with.
• Johnny A-list RC pressure is not as positive on block, and may be removed(not sure if its a different timing)
• Jaqcui QBRC???????

Can Anyone Confirm this?

Paulo's Response:

this is being caused by hotfix data on the live servers which are intentionally causing you to have to release block before dashing out. relax it will be fixed

Spoiler: 9-1-2015 hotfix

9/1 Post patch hotfix
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NRS-Lanny yesterday - last edited yesterday



Dash Cancels from charge moves will come out if the block button is being held still or pressed too early


Cassie – slightly increased damage scaling on Getaway Flip & Power Flip **this change is not active yet


Kano (CutThroat) – Slightly decreased the dam buff on Charge Up and it no longer nullifies the health drain



Kitana – Increased damage scaling on Fan Toss and Air Fan Toss

Kitana (Royal Storm) – slightly increased damage scaling on Fan-Nado


Quan Chi – Down+Fp is now -9 on block and 3 on hit (from -7 and 6)

Quan Chi (Sorcerer) - Final Hex now increases block damage by 1.5x (down from 3x) **this is a temporary change until the rune stacking bug is patched


Tanya (Pyromancer) - Dark Shroud & Devil's Dust now added 2 damage (down from 10) **this is a temporary change until the throw gain the dust damage is patched



Jason - Away+FK & Tight Squeeze can no longer be low-profiled



Scorpion - Towards+BP can no longer be low-profiled **this change is not active yet



Tremor (Crystaline) - Rock Blast is now +5 on block (down from +10)

Tremor – Movelist data is corrected **this change is not active yet

did anyone else have there RC's tampered with?

What does TYM think about these changes?

Are they good/manageable or are they damaging the characters?



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[I Am The LK]

THEY GOTTA FIX THIS. CAGE SUCKS WITHOUT SKRC PRESSURE

 

[Braindead]

Alright so let's try to compile all the stealth changes, whether good or bad or just bat shit crazy (hi Tanya). List them and I'll try to keep updating the OP.


General:

- All fireball run cancels seem to have gotten screwed.


Erron Black:

- Gunslinger: SOS3 (Low Shot) is now -6


Shinnok:

- Bone Shaper's scoop does less damage now?
- Easier brutalities requirements


Tanya:

- Throw after dark shroud in Pyro does 32% now?! Lmao


EDIT: This post looks weird now after it was merged with another thread.

 

[bettyswallaux]

Johnny's Shadow kick run cancel is messed up apparently, cant play for a bit yet but if so that's a major blow to cage..

 

[Awkward Sloth]

Shroud into throw always did 32%. No one plays Pyro so yall just never knew about. Working as intended

 

[Braindead]

Johnny's Shadow kick run cancel is messed up apparently, cant play for a bit yet but if so that's a major blow to cage..

Yeah all run cancels in the game got screwed apparently.

 

[Braindead]

Shroud into throw always did 32%. No one plays Pyro so yall just never knew about. Working as intended

Cyrax's resets worked as intended as well yeah?

 

[Atomic Era]

Tremor's 2 is a mid for half the world and high for the other half.

 

[bettyswallaux]

Yeah all run cancels in the game got screwed apparently.

Its so dumb... Especially for characters like cage IMO.. Oh well RIP cage..

 

[CaptainCM]

Erron Black (Gunslinger) - SOS3 (Low Shot) is now -6

 

[Awkward Sloth]

Cyrax's resets worked as intended as well yeah?

Yes. That's why they never truly got rid of them. He needed it.

It's her only true mix up into damage. Let it rock.

 

[Braindead]

Could the run cancels screw up be a result of some OS removal which used to make the timing easier?

 

[TheGabStandard]

Could the run cancels screw up be a result of some OS removal which used to make the timing easier?

Maybe giving Ferra/Torr a run cancel took everybody else's away

 

[Genei Jin]

ermacs gluttony and sonyas thigh master brutalities have easier requirements. you don't need low health anymore to do it.

johnny cage, unfortunately, still has insane requirements for his.

 

[Genei Jin]

kung jins straight arrow brutality is easier too. no need to wait for 7 seconds of not getting hit

 

[rafaw]

I really hope they just did a mistake with the run cancels, otherwise it will be the biggest fuck up ever.

 

[Ayase Chihaya]

Yup run cancels are not working, d'vorah, marksman erron, hw jax, liu kang, Johnny cage...

 

[podizzler3000]

why is gunslinger low shot -6 a big deal? that is on block right?

 

[Forbidden_Donut]

The timing for hw jaxs rc has changed significantly. Hit confirming with rocket cancel is insanely more difficult now. I've only been able to string together 123 rocket cancel into 12 with very very strict timing.. I still have had no luck with his other strings into rc or f3 rc.. I've only tried for about half an hour but I used to be able to do all of these relatively easily.. I really hope this is a mistake

 

[Briggs8417]

Good fuck run cancels. Play fighting games scrubs.

 

[CaptainCM]

why is gunslinger low shot -6 a big deal? that is on block right?

Yes, it's -6 on block. It's a good move now, especially in the corner. Any good move for gunslinger is a big deal.

 

[1man3letters]

tremor

BAD STEALTH CHANGE:

21d4u4/B1D4U4~db2d no longer combo because of the speed increase of stone punch.
i used that alot so that pretty crud

GOOD STEALTH CHANGES:

f121, b1d4u4, 21d4u4 ~stone punch now has no gaps
same with cancel into shatter in aftershock/metallic but not crystalline (thought start up speed would take away crystalline gaps but sadly it didnt)

 

[The_Tile]

JC A-List can still cancel his 113 into F2 and it combos, and still has all of his other combo links, it seems like it may be a VERY VERY tight link now though. He definitely isn't as plus as he used to be though.

 

[KidVanDal]

Has anyone tried kitanas RCs? I work late today and can't try them out.

 

[JS1]

Has anyone tried kitanas RCs? I work late today and can't try them out.

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