Something i dont get about the crying,help me understand.

[trufenix]

Vintagesoul

Uh, well, you can change the jargon all you want, the same kind of up/downplay nerf buff whiny bullshit happens in every community for every game. Read any and I mean ANY post on EH or SRK regarding the proposed USF4 changes, you will find a remarkably similar rhetoric. The notion that this behavior is exclusive to the TYM / NRS community is laughable, we simply have our own terms.

That said, you've completely ignored the task in my post, proving that NRS listens to "crying". Either you're casting the fact that NRS actually listens to its playerbase (a good thing) in a negative light, or you're making a grossly innaccurate statement about their patch priorities.

There's no debate that NRS made some major mistakes in terms of MK9 balancing, based in many regards on "crying", but if you can't see how much they've grown since then with regards to Injustice, I doubt you're actually playing the game.

 

[TaffyMeat]

So it's a thread about crying?
Should I cry in this thread?
Where's the bro with the tissues?

 

[Chokeapotamus]

In 20 years of playing fighting games I never saw the words "upplayers" or "downplayers" used once. That's because in other fighting games when a player makes a statement like "Ryu is low tier" people simply ignore him and call him a scrub or listen, nod and think "that's interesting" or "that's crap, this man is refusing to acknowledge that he's winning because his character is strong" if he's a top player.

Talking about this kind of stuff was simply a matter of getting to understand the game better or massaging personal prides.

In the NRS community, however, the stakes are much higher. Everyone, fairly or unfairly, believes that if their character is popularly accepted as "too strong" then he is likely to get nerfed in the next patch, and vice versa if he if "too weak".

Stakes are hella high. For some people, their tournament careers (or self created titles like "zoning master" are at stake.

So the NRS community invented terms like 'upplayer' and 'downplayer' to give expression to a simple phenomenon- players will be vocal in making their characters sound weak and strong, not simply because it makes for good discussion... but because NRS might be listening. In fact it's important to them that NRS listens to them.

Higher stakes call for modified, conditioned behaviors.

Now, I'm not "proving" anything, but if you wanna fund me to do some research or, volunteer to be my dog, just let me know.

Here's some exculpatory evidence for your case--if this was 100% true, then Bane would have been nerfed out of existence by his community's vociferous up-playing...

 

[Vintagesoul]

Vintagesoul

Uh, well, you can change the jargon all you want, the same kind of up/downplay nerf buff whiny bullshit happens in every community for every game. Read any and I mean ANY post on EH or SRK regarding the proposed USF4 changes, you will find a remarkably similar rhetoric. The notion that this behavior is exclusive to the TYM / NRS community is laughable, we simply have our own terms.

That said, you've completely ignored the task in my post, proving that NRS listens to "crying". Either you're casting the fact that NRS actually listens to its playerbase (a good thing) in a negative light, or you're making a grossly innaccurate statement about their patch priorities.

There's no debate that NRS made some major mistakes in terms of MK9 balancing, based in many regards on "crying", but if you can't see how much they've grown since then with regards to Injustice, I doubt you're actually playing the game.

All right all right, you got me. NRS nerfed low gun shots and Doomsday's splash purely because their internal testers thought it was a good idea. It had nothing to do with the huge uproar over how strong those moves were and how they killed the game for casuals. I don't have any NRS internal memos lying around. You got me there. I'm just going to call you uncle and tap out now...

 

[EnergyKD]

I honestly dont know, people complain about everything, ESPECIALLY in the forums not just TYM.

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