Should blocking cost stamina meter?

[Onilordasmodeus]

One thing that has always bugged me about MK is that you can just lay on the block button and be somewhat invulnerable.

Sure you take chip, and sure you can't tech throws while holding the block button, but should their be a more harsh consequence for just laying on the block button?

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

No, a good defence can arguably take longer to master than a good offense.

+ Chipping people out is one of my favourite ways to win.

 

[Crathen]

No , you're punishing the player for having the patience to block. Also frametraps would be too good.

The only thing i could see being fair is no stamina regen / slowed down regen.

 

[trufenix]

You listed like two huge consequences of laying on the block button. How many more do there need to be.

 

[IrishMantis]

No way, actually i think it there should be an opposite in away

a special bar for for block and know taking chip damage, hyper blocking

but theres already 3 bars so fuck it

 

[IMakeItL00kC00L]

No no no and no. If your opponent is making hard for them to open you up then throw out some grabs or try some other things. Also mk has some pretty ridiculous chip damage off of normals, so that's a thing.

 

[Groove Heaven]

I could see slowly draining the stamina meter if you took away the insane chip MK9 had. But I would actually rather keep the chip in MKX.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

This is what chip damage is for. I'd rather they lose life than stamina.

 

[Wemfs]

Jesus Christ these threads /Facepalm

 

[Eldriken]

Absolutely not.

"Let's punish someone with more than chip damage for having a good defense!"

 

[Onilordasmodeus]

This is what chip damage is for. I'd rather they lose life than stamina.

I get that, but at the same time I'm all for a guard break mechanic. No stamina, no blocking. IDK...just a thought.

 

[Rathalos]

How do you mean? Would it just drain stamina the more you are hit, but you can still block forever? Or would you get guard crushed when you hit zero?

If its the former and it just drains stamina, but you can block forever, that could be kinda interesting, because combo breakers cost 2 bars of stamina, so if you opened someone up after a long block string, they wouldn't be able to break right away.

However, as others have said, with the amount of chip damage in place, it would just to be too punishing for the defensive player.

 

[Eldriken]

I get that, but at the same time I'm all for a guard break mechanic. No stamina, no blocking. IDK...just a thought.

There would be some severely broken shit going on if that were the case.

Imagine if there's a character like Johnny Cage from MK9 in MKX. You would be SCREWED. You take stupid chip damage while your stamina gauge is getting drained and then you're guard crushed and are forced to eat damage. Yeah, let's not do that.

 

[coolwhip]

Uh...no.

 

[Flagg]

@Onilordasmodeus , like Crathen said, in certain situations frame traps would be too good.

Blocking doesn't make you invulnerable. You get chip damage, you can be thrown, depending on how you block you can still be hit with a low or overhead and plus you are giving your opponent a ton of meter.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Eeewww, are you actually suggesting a guard break system that drains endurance in a game where normals can already chip you to death and where you can't even backdash or breaker without endurance?

 

[Euphoric]

Da fuck, that's what mixups are for.

Persona had if you bash dash or walk back to much you can't use your meter or something.

 

[MagicMan357]

If they took out chip on normal then id say yes

 

[Onilordasmodeus]

There would be some severely broken shit going on if that were the case.

Imagine if there's a character like Johnny Cage from MK9 in MKX. You would be SCREWED. You take stupid chip damage while your stamina gauge is getting drained and then you're guard crushed and are forced to eat damage. Yeah, let's not do that.

Yeah, I'd hate that, and it would break the game. Of course the game would have to be balanced around this if it were implemented.

How do you mean? Would it just drain stamina the more you are hit, but you can still block forever? Or would you get guard crushed when you hit zero?

If its the former and it just drains stamina, but you can block forever, that could be kinda interesting, because combo breakers cost 2 bars of stamina, so if you opened someone up after a long block string, they wouldn't be able to break right away.

However, as others have said, with the amount of chip damage in place, it would just to be too punishing for the defensive player.

I like the idea of a guard crush, BUT I didn't even think about your first example. I think that might be "better" as it works in the existing framing of the MK9/ (potential) MKX meta.

 

[Onilordasmodeus]

Eeewww, are you actually suggesting a guard break system that drains endurance in a game where normals can already chip you to death and where you can't even backdash or breaker without endurance?

Just an idea, but of course the game would have to be balanced as so this wouldn't be a broken mechanic.

 

[Chaosphere]

No. Absolutely not. Terrible idea. No offense.

If just holding the block button makes your opponent invulnerable, then you need to work on your offense.

 

[JustPressingButtons]

There would be some severely broken shit going on if that were the case.

Imagine if there's a character like Johnny Cage from MK9 in MKX. You would be SCREWED. You take stupid chip damage while your stamina gauge is getting drained and then you're guard crushed and are forced to eat damage. Yeah, let's not do that.

Same can be said for a zoner like Freddy who had full screen frame traps.

 

[Eldriken]

Same can be said for a zoner like Freddy who had full screen frame traps.

Yep, there's that as well. I was just using Cage as an example because fuck him.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

There are many possibilities to open the block. + chip damage. No need stamina for it

 

[Spletty]

id like this in a different type of game. with all the chip damage in mk and ridiculous pushdown/blockstrings it'd be a bad idea.