Real Talk: EVO2017

[El_Rubio]

Hi guys! How do you feel about EVO17 as spectators?

I feel it was the worst EVO ever for us.

I watched it (almost) all and I'm disappointed.

I would like to see what happened with a lot of players, but stream was centered on Sonic, Theo and Semij.

They didn't stream players like Bio or Scar for example. We didn't have much diversity.

 

[AZ MotherBrain]

That's pretty much what happens to any game that needs to be finished up by on Saturday.

 

[Skkra]

Semij was extremely exciting to watch. Once he was knocked out, I left the hall though to play blackjack and slam booze. He was the last entertaining player to watch.

 

[Shaka]

As if 17 pages of crying wasn't enough lol

 

[ATL Jones Bro3]

This wasn't even close to our worst EVO... one of our best if you forget about being on Saturday. I guess you weren't around for injustice 1 first EVO.

 

[SaSSolino]

The last MKX EVO was way worse, this one wasn't that bad.

 

[Wigy]

Semij was extremely exciting to watch. Once he was knocked out, I left the hall though to play blackjack and slam booze. He was the last entertaining player to watch.

Wait what?

Honeybee?

honeybee did insane clutch out of the box stuff 24/7 and wasnt playing a busted character

 

[El_Rubio]

The last MKX EVO was way worse, this one wasn't that bad

why? there we had Tekken Master and his Kotal!

 

[El_Rubio]

I guess you weren't around for injustice 1 first EVO.

That was like MK vs DC.... Noone should remember it!!! hahahah

 

[Paul the Octopus]

I thought it was quite good, really enjoyed it.

Honeybees matches were some of the most hype NRS matches of all time.

Upsets to Sonic Fox and Theo had me in disbelief as well.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Shutting down the stream before top 8 was stupid, and the matches on stream weren't always great. Overall though I thought it was fine, and possibly the best top 8 we've had in a while.

 

[SaSSolino]

why? there we had Tekken Master and his Kotal!

there was no hype at all. the atmosphere was completely dead and we played the finals early in the morning.

 

[PunkMafia83]

I actually really enjoyed it. Obviously honeybee was a highlight. I really liked theo's Superman well. Good character variety and exciting matches overall.

Worst Evo ever? Not even close. Go check out the tekken 6 grand finals where Bob reigned supreme lol.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

That's pretty much what happens to any game that needs to be finished up by on Saturday.

I don't think it was the issue.Did we need all those developpers on stream? Why did Hayatei not have 1 match streamed all the way from pool to top 8 the one who was in charge of that should be put on blast.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

The worst EVO ever for us? You must have just gotten here this year.

This EVO was great production-wise and extremely smooth -- and the matches were great as well.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I don't think it was the issue.Did we need all those developpers on stream? Why did Hayatei not have 1 match streamed all the way from pool to top 8 the one who was in charge of that should be put on blast.

I don't think you realize how much goes on at an event, just to run a bracket with 800 people in it. I'm not even talking about the stream yet -- just to run the actual tournament and have things go smoothly and on time.

You're thinking of this as a big line of people on one setup, just waiting for the one king-ordained, hand-picked match to please the stream viewers (who paid nothing, by the way). Just hold up the whole tournament, stop the presses, so we can get this guy on stream.

There are a million factors to consider. Priority is given toward advancing the tournament on time. All setups are not the stream setup. We should be happy they they actually made an effort to put notable players on stream, rather than complaining that the players *you* specifically wanted to see didn't end up being the ones that worked logistically.

If one of you guys actually had to go run a giant tournament, with people yelling at you on the venue floor because XYZ isn't right and X player isn't where he's supposed to be, and TurtleBurger is playing Guilty Gear when his match is up, and the runners need bracket updates ASAP, and an admin is needed because the headphones aren't working at setup #12, and DLC is missing on the other side of the room, etc., you'd appreciate how much it takes just to give the appearance of a smooth stream for everybody else.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

I mean we get it. The person most people didn't want to win won with the character most people (if not outright everyone) can't stand watching. Some great matches and upsets also weren't caught on stream too.

Woopty doo. It was a huge tournament with some shit bound to be missed and it ran smooth as butter with great commentary, production values, plenty of hype moments and upsets that were caught on stream, etc, etc. If this Evo was bad than Injustice 1's first Evo and grand finals from its second were seventh layer of hell torture levels of bad by comparison.

 

[JTC]

2nd worst Evo behind Inj1. Honeybee, Hayatei, Sonic, and PL saved it from being a borefest.

 

[Linkuei82]

What are we talking about here? Pools stream? Top 8? Grand finals? Productions? All of that put together?

Production wise it was the best to me. Pools that was on stream was the worst. Grand Finals is tied to Inj Evo 2013 to me.

 

[DrZmmm]

Some of the matches in pools were awful(at least what I saw on stream), but I guess that's to be expected? I thought it was a great tournament overall. A good variety of characters used and some very nice matches

 

[Shaka]

Only issue is they didn't stream the entire top16, they left out key matches and put lots of random scrubs on screen.

 

[Ilthuain]

I thought it was great.

There was character diversity, excellent play, good commentary, and high production values.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

I don't think you realize how much goes on at an event, just to run a bracket with 800 people in it. I'm not even talking about the stream yet -- just to run the actual tournament and have things go smoothly and on time.

You're thinking of this as a big line of people on one setup, just waiting for the one king-ordained, hand-picked match to please the stream viewers (who paid nothing, by the way). Just hold up the whole tournament, stop the presses, so we can get this guy on stream.

There are a million factors to consider. Priority is given toward advancing the tournament on time. All setups are not the stream setup. We should be happy they they actually made an effort to put notable players on stream, rather than complaining that the players *you* specifically wanted to see didn't end up being the ones that worked logistically.

If one of you guys actually had to go run a giant tournament, with people yelling at you on the venue floor because XYZ isn't right and X player isn't where he's supposed to be, and TurtleBurger is playing Guilty Gear when his match is up, and the runners need bracket updates ASAP, and an admin is needed because the headphones aren't working at setup #12, and DLC is missing on the other side of the room, etc., you'd appreciate how much it takes just to give the appearance of a smooth stream for everybody else.

What goes down is none of my concern as a viewer me watching ads or having Amazon prime is me paying for it I'm paying with my time.
Let's not act like it wasn't someone job to hand pick the match that were on stream it was. That person did a poor job by not showing matches from fan favorite like Hayatei, it's not like the tournament stop while someone is waiting for his match to be streamed. Having none of Hayatei matches streamed and having DJT vs Xian not being on stream by choice(If the rumor is true) just show that the guy in charged did a poor job.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

What goes down is none of my concern as a viewer me watching ads or having Amazon prime is me paying for it I'm paying with my time.
Let's not act like it wasn't someone job to hand pick the match that were on stream it was. That person did a poor job by not showing matches from fan favorite like Hayatei, it's not like the tournament stop while someone is waiting for his match to be streamed. Having none of Hayatei matches streamed and having DJT vs Xian not being on stream by choice(If the rumor is true) just show that the guy in charged did a poor job.

You don't understand.. You don't just 'pick' every match in an 800-man tournament, with a million people playing matches at one time on a ton of different setups in multiple pools. What and who's available depends on multiple other considerations, that come from the tournament, and are not under the control of a guy or girl running a stream.

It's not that person's job to disrupt the entire tournament or delay the bracket just so your personal favorite can be shown if they're playing a match. The tournament is definitely first priority for the people who are there (and paid hundreds of dollars to be there), and the stream is secondary.

And NetherRealm doesn't run ads, so I'm not sure what you mean there.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

You don't understand.. You don't just 'pick' every match in an 800-man tournament with a million people playing matches at one time. What and who's available depends on multiple other considerations, that come from the tournament, and are not under the control of a guy or girl running a stream.

It's not that person's job to disrupt the entire tournament or cause delays just so your personal favorite can be shown if they're playing a match. The tournament is priority first for the people who are there, and the stream is secondary.

And NetherRealm doesn't run ads, so I'm not sure what you mean there.

What i am saying is that we pay with our time it's not really free nothing is. I'm not asking for every match to be streamed I'm asking for good matches to be streamed. It's not like there isn't a pre schedule list of potential matches to stream. Those may change depending on how the tournament is going but choosing the potential best is someone's job and he failed at it.