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POST PATCH CAPTAIN COLD COMBOS!

Gamer68

Gamer68

Fujin!
Captain Cold is becoming more and more like Bo' Rai Cho if that last video is anything to go by, which is fine by me.

Good stuff! Thinking about giving Subby a break and trying out Captain Cold and Grodd again.
 
ErkrodC

ErkrodC

CC Techhunter
So I'm not sure if this was possible prepatch, but check this out. It's very proof-of-concepty right now, but I'm looking to optimize and get better setups. Point is that it can be done.

I'm also looking at his restand potential with ex icicle + db2 (you can see me f it up at the end of the first video), but it was super finnicky before the patch and now even more so...I think. But if these two things can be hashed out I think he'd jump to brokenness pretty quick :V

This is a prepatch video i took:
What's really interesting is that it would also restand off a juggle. Haven't checked yet if it works post-patch

Edit: so I played around with the restand thing a little more and it looks like it no longer works off of juggles. It's still works on the ground, but it seems like nrs reduced the gravity (whaaaa) after ex db3 such that you can't get the restanding hit at the right time anymore. The only way I've been able to get the gravity high enough is by putting the opponent into a second lvl2 bubble, but in that state it's impossible to set up an ex icicle. I wish they'd allow an ex db3 after they get frozen by a lvl 2 trait, but w/e.
 
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KH_Seraph

KH_Seraph

ҜømbÄŦ Ħøu&Ŧøπ
All of this is cool but will never happen in competitive play unless the stars and planets magically align, and at the same time Lady Luck BOTH smiles and winks at you and the connection on both player's ends are completely ideal at 100% with less than 10 ms ping or you're sitting directly next to the other player, AND they don't know the matchup against CC at all AND they're playing a character that naturally does poorly against CC and in other words isn't Fate, Deadshot, Darkseid, Superman, Black Adam, Aquaman, Robin, etc etc...
 
ErkrodC

ErkrodC

CC Techhunter
KH_Seraph said:
All of this is cool but will never happen in competitive play unless the stars and planets magically align, and at the same time Lady Luck BOTH smiles and winks at you and the connection on both player's ends are completely ideal at 100% with less than 10 ms ping or you're sitting directly next to the other player, AND they don't know the matchup against CC at all AND they're playing a character that naturally does poorly against CC and in other words isn't Fate, Deadshot, Darkseid, Superman, Black Adam, Aquaman, Robin, etc etc...
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It's not all that far-fetched to think that a corner combo which has no net change to trait lvl is infeasible...I mean, shit, i got it after like the 3rd try. You may be right about the restand thing since it seems like a glitch more than anything, but it doesn't hurt to be sure of that. You're just being pessimistic.
 
M.D.

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
The main reason that these will never happen is that the 3s after f3 and f4 are like 1 frame links or smth..no way you'd risk a hard earned corner and lvl 2 trait for that.
 
Kotal_Wannabe

Kotal_Wannabe

AKA AndyPandy
Looks great, shame it would't in a million years land in a real fight...God forbid CC may have been semi viable otherwise. would have loved if he could do viable Kotal like combos in corner, but no, guess we're all stuck with a shit character till next patch...
 
Ninequads93

Ninequads93

Beware your Fears
Kotal_Wannabe said:
Looks great, shame it would't in a million years land in a real fight...God forbid CC may have been semi viable otherwise. would have loved if he could do viable Kotal like combos in corner, but no, guess we're all stuck with a shit character till next patch...
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The 800 one isn't too far fetched just need 2 bars and a loaded trait and hit an opp with a mbf3 in the corner , the combo isn't impossible once u get the hang of it
 
Kotal_Wannabe

Kotal_Wannabe

AKA AndyPandy
Ninequads93 said:
The 800 one isn't too far fetched just need 2 bars and a loaded trait and hit an opp with a mbf3 in the corner , the combo isn't impossible once u get the hang of it
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I love your vids man, luv em, but be honest, how often have you landed it in a real fight. My guess is never. If even once, i'd love to see the replay. So wish this character had something going for him but, NRS just don't give a fuck
 
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omooba

omooba

fear the moobs
M.D. said:
The main reason that these will never happen is that the 3s after f3 and f4 are like 1 frame links or smth..no way you'd risk a hard earned corner and lvl 2 trait for that.
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respectfully call bullshit cus no it's not a 1 frame link and 2 there are people you go for one frame links in other games all time soooo yeah
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I don't think that it would be viable in the competition. It's a high risk cuz of the ice orb (DF3). I think that it would be viable right from the middle to corner combo ending itself with B232xxDF3, and then a mind game comes from either F23 or 12. One of the two will bring this combo out.
 
ErkrodC

ErkrodC

CC Techhunter
This seems promising:

What's nice is that f3 will leave you at +6 if blocked, not to mention the bubble will add to that advantage. maybe there's some jails to be discovered???

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Oh shit, doth mine eyes deceive me? CC has a jail whaaaaaaatttt
 
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M.D.

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
Hah it's actually the perfect mixup as if you do d1 mb wall then you can go into his 70%.

(for people too lazy to search for it:
f4(grenade) in the corner -> d1 -> db2mb -> 3bf1 -> 3bf1 -> 3bf1 -> freeze from grenade -> f3 -> f23 -> db2)

So basically after you do f4 trait in the corner on knockdown you have the choice of this or f3 in the loop above, which transitions into this mixup again.

Cool.
 
ErkrodC

ErkrodC

CC Techhunter
I also feel like even if they block the f3 d1 mb wall, youre still at like +3 i think (or more cuz bubble) and they've already been in the bubble for a bit. maybe throw in a f233 and you got yourself an unblockable combo.

E: nvm, mb wall pushes you back too far.
 
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ii 2shay ii

Mortal
Gamer68 said:
Captain Cold is becoming more and more like Bo' Rai Cho if that last video is anything to go by, which is fine by me.

Good stuff! Thinking about giving Subby a break and trying out Captain Cold and Grodd again.
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Captain Cold destroys sub zero, so go for it!
 
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