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NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
That was a fun one to watch. That D-Nite could've wrecked waaaaay more shop than it did though lol.
all i was thinking was...... why isn't the dragonite doing a dragon type move? Those obvious switch in's were very obvious.

I still hate the psudo legendaries in OU tho..... jesus they are too powerful.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
all i was thinking was...... why isn't the dragonite doing a dragon type move? Those obvious switch in's were very obvious.

I still hate the psudo legendaries in OU tho..... jesus they are too powerful.
you mean like T-Tar, Garchomp or D-Nite? Those are the only pseudos I can think of that are really popular in OU. I guess Goodra too. None of them are really that bad though.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
you mean like T-Tar, Garchomp or D-Nite? Those are the only pseudos I can think of that are really popular in OU. I guess Goodra too. None of them are really that bad though.
nah i'm talking more like....... Zapdos and the Genies and such.

They aren't he "poster" legendaries... but they don't belong in OU. Stats are just too high.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
nah i'm talking more like....... Zapdos and the Genies and such.

They aren't he "poster" legendaries... but they don't belong in OU. Stats are just too high.
Zapdos isn't bad at all, and the only reason he is so relevant this gen is because flying types became amazing and he counters them. (Also, having defog doesn't hurt it) genies have stats that are around the same vein as most of OU, actually even lower than some. The two that are getting on my nerves lately are deoxys d and s.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Mega's aren't a bother because you can only have one.

When you have Deoxy's running around being stupid in the Speed and Defense and Genies who have stupid base stats ........ idk.
I'd rather them be in a limbo group than just tossed into OU.
Megas have stats twice as bad as the genies though lol. Most of them get abilities that are waaaay more retarded as well. Look at Charizard X. His base stats are sick as hell, and he gets a stupid good typing and ability on top of that.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Megas have stats twice as bad as the genies though lol. Most of them get abilities that are waaaay more retarded as well. Look at Charizard X. His base stats are sick as hell, and he gets a stupid good typing and ability on top of that.
but you only get one mega.

YOu don't have a team of pseudo's with base stats that are just BETTER than someone elses. Even if they aren't spread well........ they are just better. It is annoying.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
but you only get one mega.

YOu don't have a team of pseudo's with base stats that are just BETTER than someone elses. Even if they aren't spread well........ they are just better. It is annoying.
Ok, so because I only have one Mega Kangaskhan it makes it ok? lol, no that is certainly not the case. The genies have super hard counters littered across the meta, and they even though they are really good, I don't see any of them being banworthy. Thundurus especially isn't all that bad, Landorus I see a little more, and Tornadus is a UU poke this gen...his incarnate form might actually be RU. Greninja blows the genies up btw, they both have counters scattered across the meta, you just have to find them.
 

matterovermind

mindundermatter
Rotom-H, Greninja, Mamoswine, even some hidden power users hit those (and many more) really hard. I agree the pseudos are really good and probably on the "upper" side of the OU tier. But, they're not extremely difficult to deal with, such that you would have a really lop-sided match. In fact, most of them run very predictable sets.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Rotom-H, Greninja, Mamoswine, even some hidden power users hit those (and many more) really hard. I agree the pseudos are really good and probably on the "upper" side of the OU tier. But, they're not extremely difficult to deal with, such that you would have a really lop-sided match. In fact, most of them run very predictable sets.
Thundurus has gotten boring to come across, unless I happen to come across the occasional superpower user, I bop him. Landorus gives me trouble from time to time though, just because I carry no ice on my team and Rotom is just slower than he is lol.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Ok, so because I only have one Mega Kangaskhan it makes it ok? lol, no that is certainly not the case. The genies have super hard counters littered across the meta, and they even though they are really good, I don't see any of them being banworthy. Thundurus especially isn't all that bad, Landorus I see a little more, and Tornadus is a UU poke this gen...his incarnate form might actually be RU. Greninja blows the genies up btw, they both have counters scattered across the meta, you just have to find them.
I get your point
Mega Khan is only broken because of that ability though. Lets be serious. If he couldn't Power Up Punch...... we wouldn't be banning him.

I think the worst part about a few of the poke's is that they're mixed attackers. Ambiguity in this game makes you great, even with bad stats.
Maybe you're right..... Idk.

I think there are just better ways to tier out the entire group, and right now this isn't a good way IMO.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
I get your point
Mega Khan is only broken because of that ability though. Lets be serious. If he couldn't Power Up Punch...... we wouldn't be banning him.

I think the worst part about a few of the poke's is that they're mixed attackers. Ambiguity in this game makes you great, even with bad stats.
Maybe you're right..... Idk.

I think there are just better ways to tier out the entire group, and right now this isn't a good way IMO.
Ambiguity is one of the biggest reasons mega kang and lucario got banned, so I get that. Just because something is ambiguous though doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to be amazing. Don't get me wrong btw, I'm not saying that any of them have bad stats by any means, they are great. However, because of the way the meta is right now, there are just a lot of checks to what they can do. Priority being super huge this meta is a negative for landorus. Grass and ground type coming back with a vengeance hurts thundurus. Steel buffs killed kyurem, as well as hyper voice users becoming big. Although these guys do have great stats, abilities and moves at their disposal, because of how people are currently playing the meta and all the other really good pokes that are being used can deal with them, I just don't see a reason to do away with them yet. (Except Deoxys, it's just too easy to get hazards out lol.)
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Landorus is stupid. Both forms. It can survive every single attack in the god damn game. Even a 252+ 2.5 attack Dragonite Dragon claw.

The fact that it has intimidate and insane natural bulk mixed with an absolutely great attack stat and good speed means unless you have an ice type, it's going to roll through at least one poke.

Landorus as a core poke is one of the best pokemon in OU.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Landorus is stupid. Both forms. It can survive every single attack in the god damn game. Even a 252+ 2.5 attack Dragonite Dragon claw.

The fact that it has intimidate and insane natural bulk mixed with an absolutely great attack stat and good speed means unless you have an ice type, it's going to roll through at least one poke.

Landorus as a core poke is one of the best pokemon in OU.
You are totally exaggerating the bulk dude. Yeah it's bulky, but I can 2hko it with mega venusaur with no Sp. Atk investment whatsoever. It's a ground flying type man, it's easily a top 3 defensive typing. Look at gliscor this exact problem could be said about him as well. It's weak to water and ice. If you arent carrying at least one of those i think you have a flaw on yer team in the first place.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
You are totally exaggerating the bulk dude. Yeah it's bulky, but I can 2hko it with mega venusaur with no Sp. Atk investment whatsoever. It's a ground flying type man, it's easily a top 3 defensive typing. Look at gliscor this exact problem could be said about him as well.
except he can't attack in NEARLY the same nature, nore can he drop your attack stats.

Lando is a dick and shouldn't be in OU. Same with Deoxy's.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
except he can't attack in NEARLY the same naturr attack stats.

Lando is a dick and shouldn't be in OU. Same with Deoxy's.
Again ig you arent carrying water or ice to scare it there is a problem with your team, not the pokemon. Run greninja or gyarados and watch how quickly it leaves.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Ya i agree with Joker on this. His speed actually decreased in his tiger form. And his defenses are actually not that great. The issue is he lowers your attack and with the attack being lower it seems that he has more bulk than he probably has. Just hit with an ice special attack and he is one shot. Ninja Frog is probably a great option. Since i think he is faster and can learn ice beam. Or just have rocks out to deal some damage to him when he comes in and out.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Again ig you arent carrying water or ice to scare it there is a problem with your team, not the pokemon. Run greninja or gyarados and watch how quickly it leaves.
you do realize that it can 1hko your venasaur if it packs any flying stab right?

Even if it isn't how is your Venasaur going to do shit to it when it packs the very common u-turn?