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:( just came back to this game and the frame buff on hook charge removed b1,2 bf3 completely

Please correct me if im wrong.
You're right. With the buff on the startup of hook charge, we've lost the ability to cancel into it off of those strings for the meterless setup.

You can still get the setup to work off of b3 then hook charge and mb toss to b3 then hook charge, but it sacrifices a lot of damage and generally isn't worth doing unless your comfortable relying on a hail Mary.