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Nah, actually. b2d3 provides like 8 extra hit stun frames but she can't do anything extra with them tbh. As well as that, it does less damage. 111 is the superior vortex ender. It's also easier for beginners to time since all they have to do is mash 111.
More hitstun = less chance to escape or try a mb b3/f3 (even thought it's very unlikely I know)
Funny you mentioned the d2~bola. I still drop it A LOT when I'm on the left side of the screen for some reason.
No, 111 is always better. There's no chance of backdashing/MB b/f3 through 111 if done properly. It's literally impossible. There is absolutely no reason to go for b2d3 over 111 as an ender. The only other ender worth mentioning is 21 which provides an ambiguous cross up/ no cross up ji3 based upon stance.More hitstun = less chance to escape or try a mb b3/f3 (even thought it's very unlikely I know)
I'm not saying 111 is worse, I mean a vortex is a vortex and batgirl is amazing anyway so whatever string you use doesn't really matter. I suppose 111 is more beginner friendly but if they have to learn b2u3 then doing b2d3 can't hurt
You make b2d3 sound like the worst string ever...as you said it has more hitstun for one thing even if "she can't do anything extra with them". I'm just saying either is viable that's all, 111 is ok too
Yeah it's viable, but it's not worth using. It's like why go for something that's harder to use and does less damage? It's not worth it.
Well that's like saying why use b2u3 for the overhead in the vortex instead of f3 since b2u3 is harder to input and does less damage? You could use both if you wanted to and they achieve the same thing. I don't want to start an argument here so let's just accept that we use different enders for different purposes/advantages yeah?
No, it's nothing like b2 vs. f3. f3 is hella slow and easily reactable. What is the advantage of using b2d3 as an ender? I'm curious to see your point of view. What viable tactic can you use after b2d3 that you can't after 111?Well that's like saying why use b2u3 for the overhead in the vortex instead of f3 since b2u3 is harder to input and does less damage? You could use both if you wanted to and they achieve the same thing. I don't want to start an argument here so let's just accept that we use different enders for different purposes/advantages yeah?
It's about getting this guy a tutor! And clearly batgirl isn't the most beginner friendly if vortex enders are even a problem
More hitstun, less recovery frames (I usually get a free dash in which messes with them), slightly less pushback so it's good for ambiguous crossup setups. There's not necessarily a 'viable tactic' that b2d3 has over 111 but it's the same for 111 over b2d3. Or, well, what do you see in it that you don't see in b2d3 besides a bit more damage?
as long as you don't teleport too much since it's unsafe. you can do a lot with just cartwheel really
No, the damage is the only difference. That is literally the only distinction between the two. 21 is used for ambiguous cross ups. You actually don't get any crossups off b2d3, if they hold back they block them all.More hitstun, less recovery frames (I usually get a free dash in which messes with them), slightly less pushback so it's good for ambiguous crossup setups. There's not necessarily a 'viable tactic' that b2d3 has over 111 but it's the same for 111 over b2d3. Or, well, what do you see in it that you don't see in b2d3 besides a bit more damage?
Cartwheel cartwheel cartwheel I suppose
That's my point, besides damage they're both viable combo enders. I would use 111 but I just prefer b2d3 for what I can do after it
yeah I know you don't actually get any but it just makes it look like you're going for a crossup, works a lot for me
