DetroitBalln
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LOL, that's the same combo I first came up with, but i never used the 1, before the 12F434, jump4, f434,du2 does whiff now. New combo f434, jump4, 1, 12, f434,du2 and does 2% more damage
LOL, that's the same combo I first came up with, but i never used the 1, before the 12F434, jump4, f434,du2 does whiff now. New combo f434, jump4, 1, 12, f434,du2 and does 2% more damage
b1214 xx up skull never worked, even pre patch. It was never a good idea.If f434 up skull doesn't work then do b1214 up skull. B1214 has always been the better string in the corner to use over f434, it's slightly harder does a bit more dmg and with f434 is you do it after a jk 12 then the opponent can tech roll and wakeup and hit you before you can block.
With b1214 the recoveries faster than you can always block anything after throwing the up skull.
I don't think it's the faster SS that made him worse, rather the inability to continue pressure as before due to wakeup attacks actually working now.I would think shang would have gotten better due to his faster soul steal... making him play more on his signature move
so... did he realy get worst or is it... the other characters have got better in dealing with him?
and... i've said this reapeatedly, negative edge was effected minus 3 frames, so thangs should seem to come out faster...
so maybe stuff wouldn't wiff if delayed a little, like... do your own negative edge... i may be wrong though
mm not exactly. the universal wakeup change obviously hurt shang, his wakeup options are a little better, he is notShang is even better after the patch. What are people talking about? Is your execution so fragile you can't handle one of your specials being better?
I'm still stuffing Reptile dashes and Sub clones on wakeup like nobody's business. Shang can pressure them outside their effective range.mm not exactly. the universal wakeup change obviously hurt shang, his wakeup options are a little better, he is not
I generally stay outside wakeup range and poke them with a meaty soul steal, front up skull, or front down skull. Safe versus a lot of wakeup attacks and also jump ins. This is if they even get to use one that is since I play a primarily SS Shang.@Shadowfire
Could you please elaborate your post? I'd really like to know what setups you are talking about. Maybe you're using in front US ?
Hasn't the corner US whiff damaged your gameplay?
shang lost like all his damaging US setups, except in the corner. 221, US whiffs, F434, df2 whiffs , 221 gs, mgs, US whiffs 221, df2 doesnt whiff but they have to techroll. f434 GS jk b1 b121 du2 is what ive been using in the corner. basically he only has standing resets after techrolls and like 3 or 4 in the corner, which (for me) makes shang have to work even harder. also its almost impossible to zone now, armor everything lmaoWhat corner US whiff do you mean exactly? It's still a good pressure tool there, just throw an up skull and block, or crossup jump if they're not Kung Lao.
Um, what? I'm in the process of recording a combo video and I'm positive all of Shang's skull combos work exactly the same, they didn't touch them during the patch. With wakeups, again you just have to guess right. Zoning is easier with the dash nerf.shang lost like all his damaging US setups, except in the corner. 221, US whiffs, F434, df2 whiffs , 221 gs, mgs, US whiffs 221, df2 doesnt whiff but they have to techroll. f434 GS jk b1 b121 du2 is what ive been using in the corner. basically he only has standing resets after techrolls and like 3 or 4 in the corner, which (for me) makes shang have to work even harder. also its almost impossible to zone now, armor everything lmao
go do 221 du2 in practiceUm, what? I'm in the process of recording a combo video and I'm positive all of Shang's skull combos work exactly the same, they didn't touch them during the patch. With wakeups, again you just have to guess right. Zoning is easier with the dash nerf.
Besides Shang is not a pure zoner, he relies on being able to get in their face and mix it up with frame traps as well, like Sub. Also you just plain need to learn to soul steal because it's one of the longest range and most match-altering safe pokes in the game.
Will do! It's a big all-character one (and my first one) plus I'm getting used to editing video on Windows (ugh) so it might be a week away still.Let us know if you have the video up Shadowfire.
err well it used to change them to a standing position and you could get a free jip and keep the pressure going. it was just a trick, but the wakeup change messed up a bunch of those setups. like a whole bunch.I thought you meant as a trap not as a combo.
Why would you want to upskull there?