Breakthrough - Smoke New Meaty Setup. 213, the ender that nobody talks about...

[WiseM0nkey]

He might have spaced it so that the second hit whiffs. 2(1)3 or something like that. Or maybe he cancelled into something else. Who knows.

it's like reptile punishing the gap between Lao B32()1.... it doesnt always armour that, depends on the distance

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

What I've been doing alot lately is 213 or 21 b3.

The overhead on 213 is delayed and a true block string. Also leads to pretty good oki on hit, so ppl wanna block it. 21 recovers fast and at +2 it leaves only a few frames for a 6frame d1 to beat b3. It's been working for me pretty well lately, I think you guys should check it out!!

 

[Reauxbot]

Alright I'm trying to get this straight. 21 is like +2 right. Which means there shouldn't be a gap?
And if there was, then that means you can also go low since the overhead seems a bit late to come out as well.
More mind games as well.
Another stupid question. The b2 hits meaty correct?

 

[Darth Mao]

Good work!

 

[GOOD DRAGON]

Works on males, females, and big hitbox characters (tested on F/T)

Nice dude, you can also use b213 as an ender as well which pretty much does the same thing. But nice discovery completely forgot about that string.

 

[Altsa]

This is definitely something worth mixing in there, especially if both players are out of meter.

@anothernametolearn

 

[Scott The Scot]

Nice dude, you can also use b213 as an ender as well which pretty much does the same thing. But nice discovery completely forgot about that string.

I didn't even know B213 and F213 were hard knockdowns, nice stuff man!

 

[Scott The Scot]

Alright I'm trying to get this straight. 21 is like +2 right. Which means there shouldn't be a gap?
And if there was, then that means you can also go low since the overhead seems a bit late to come out as well.
More mind games as well.
Another stupid question. The b2 hits meaty correct?

If you want to link a meterless Smoke Bomb after B1 then you would hit it meaty.

 

[STB BroZki]

Scott I know I've barley talked to you in here. But I really really love you. Haha good shit man! Helped all smoke players today

 

[xQUANTUMx]

This is great stuff, good job Scott

 

[WakeUp DP]

How long does he stay on the ground if ended a juggle with it?

 

[Scott The Scot]

How long does he stay on the ground if ended a juggle with it?

Pretty much the same, iirc.

 

[Nausea]

Ya wee belter <3

 

[Scott The Scot]

Ya wee belter <3

I have some Anti-Mac tech as well lol

 

[Nausea]

I have some Anti-Mac tech as well lol

Hahaha lets go brah! IM RIGHT HERE BRAH!

 

[SneakyTortoise]

Please tag the sneaky smoke for future gold like this

 

[MK_Al]

I'm pretty sure 213 has a gap to armour. 21(3)

I swear to god you armoured through two times when we played a few days ago - which really took me by suprise. So i went to the lab afterwards to check the string again. Still no gap.
I have no clue what the f is going on here lol. Maybe its like laos b321 gap?

 

[GGA Wafflez]

hmmmmmm, next on your list is to find a reset for meh to get undeserved wins w/ thnx

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Better pick up smoke now!


Good stuff.

 

[Scott The Scot]

hmmmmmm, next on your list is to find a reset for meh to get undeserved wins w/ thnx

Should be up within the next hour, sir

 

[xQUANTUMx]

fuck am I using cyrax for?

 

[Vigilante24]

Excellent find. Now I can make my friends hate Smoke even more!

 

[MajinBerserker]

Works on males, females, and big hitbox characters (tested on F/T)

Important question, important answer! Heh

Good stuff, man. Will definitely implement.
Just curious, does F213 do more/less/same damage as 213 as an ender? I only ask because it gives a HKD and innnnsane hit advantage (and also looks dope). The problem I have with F213- always connecting it at the end of longer combos. From viewing, 213 looks more consistent (also dope), which would be great.
If it is more consistent, I guess who the fk cares if F213 does 1-2% more. Lol

 

[Scott The Scot]

Important question, important answer! Heh

Good stuff, man. Will definitely implement.
Just curious, does F213 do more/less/same damage as 213 as an ender? I only ask because it gives a HKD and innnnsane hit advantage (and also looks dope). The problem I have with F213- always connecting it at the end of longer combos. From viewing, 213 looks more consistent (also dope), which would be great.
If it is more consistent, I guess who the fk cares if F213 does 1-2% more. Lol

If I remember correctly, they all do 12% damage. F213 leaves them closer to you though and open for a wakeup throw if you block.

 

[MajinBerserker]

If I remember correctly, they all do 12% damage. F213 leaves them closer to you though and open for a wakeup throw if you block.

Okay, that tells me plenty! Thanks for clarification. Definitely a good point about the WU Throw spacing.
Can't wait to work on this when I get home later.