General/Other - Venomous New and Improved Venomous D'Vorah Buffs Explained

[HoneyBee]

Hey TYM,

As I'm sure many of you know, both Venomous and Brood Mother received some buffs in the new patch. While I don't quite feel the Brood Mother buffs are enough for me to make the switch off Swarm Queen, I definitely think the Venomous buffs are significant and will make Venomous D'Vorah a character to be feared. All my findings so far are included in the video below. Enjoy!

@Take$$$
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@Sindelia
@Vak Phoenix
@SaltShaker
@TopTierHarley
@RunwayMafia
@anyone else interested

 

[True]

Has your cancels been fixed yet?

 

[Take$$$]

Dirty. I wonder if this will be better than SQ even after they fix the cancels.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

Brood Mother got ruined. Damage scale is too much for her combos, they do 10% less.

 

[SaltShaker]

Thanks for the tag. Man that is amazing. Seeing it on display helped me understand why the buffs were so beneficial than reading it. I agree that in some of the more footsie oriented variations Venomous might be the go to one to use.

Great changes and additions to the character.

 

[HoneyBee]

Dirty. I wonder if this will be better than SQ even after they fix the cancels.

It's hard to say. I haven't even played a match with the new patch yet lol. What do you think?

 

[Deadly Torcher]

That's just pure filth, think of the online hate

 

[TopTierHarley]

Yup, we now have 2 competitive variations. Long live the Hive

 

[EntropicByDesign]

So happy about this. I love this variation (I dislike the cancel mechanic in SQ).. Ive been saying I would come back to this game if this patch impressed me, and it def has. Between this and Kano.. Omgooses.

 

[Take$$$]

It's hard to say. I haven't even played a match with the new patch yet lol. What do you think?

It is hard to say because of the fucked up cancels, but I'll get to play against Magician in a bit and get a feel for the current strength of Venomous. He cant mash shit out of my spray anymore so it'll be playable lol. One thing to note is characters like Quan got help against D'Vorahs f112 WC pressure, which probably makes it a bit weaker since it loses a braindead matchup.

 

[Zoidberg747]

My first reaction to the venemous buffs:

 

[stamatis]

Can someone explain why you lose health sometimes and sometimes you don't after her hits?

 

[tigerija]

Yeah, and now we are waiting for nerf. I dont know anymore if its worth playing any character because they are just doing huge changes all the time.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Can someone explain why you lose health sometimes and sometimes you don't after her hits?

Only things that add venom are her moves involving ovipositors and 11,112, d1, j1, and j2. Anything else is just regular damage

 

[Levaranoia]

This bitch definitely gonna get nerfed.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Stack damage is busted.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Yeah, and now we are waiting for nerf. I dont know anymore if its worth playing any character because they are just doing huge changes all the time.

This bitch definitely gonna get nerfed.

Tyler: "So you guys think the game is good where it is?"
Paulo: "Yeah this is how its gonna be for a while"

 

[TopTierHarley]

Stack damage is busted.

How so?

 

[xInfra Deadx]

How so?

It's able to reach 20%.

 

[TopTierHarley]

It's able to reach 20%.

Hmm, either they raised or the limit or it is indeed a bug that will fixed with the other stuff

 

[Take$$$]

Eh, it's only been a few games but Venomous feels fine. It's strong as fuck, but it's not busted at all. Probably not better than SQ at all, but I can see an argument being made very soon due to people not understanding difficulty=/=balance. Hopefully someone can provide a better one after that happens.

 

[Skedar70]

Only things that add venom are her moves involving ovipositors and 11,112, d1, j1, and j2. Anything else is just regular damage

So if you hit something that doesn't have venom after a hit with venom the stacking is cancelled?

 

[Zoidberg747]

So if you hit something that doesn't have venom after a hit with venom the stacking is cancelled?

No

@TopTierHarley I thought they said they increased the venom stack damage in the patch right?\

Edit: Yeah no they didn't. Its a bug.

 

[TopTierHarley]

No

@TopTierHarley I thought they said they increased the venom stack damage in the patch right?\

Edit: Yeah no they didn't. Its a bug.

Yea they only increased the damage on spray, the coding might have read that as venom overall. I'm fine with it being fixed as it is a bug. Venomous will still be good.

 

[Take$$$]

It's able to reach 20%.

The only time stacked damage is going to be insane is when you play against that guy who never blocks.

Yea they only increased the damage on spray, the coding might have read that as venom overall. I'm fine with it being fixed as it is a bug. Venomous will still be good.

I don't think anyone would notice the difference if this stayed for months then got patched. Very very very rarely is the stacking going to go THAT far over what it was before. Fun to do in training mode though.