Match Footage - Sub-Zero My gameplay, review my sub par gameplay

[C88 Zombieekiler]

ill add more gameplay later lol im bored at school so i though fuuuk it why not make a thread study is cool >_>

 

[CoolChameleon]

Why no flip kick punishes?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Well your grandmaster is better than mine. I'd try to hit confirm b33 into iceball more. A couple times b33 hit and you Kloned when if you used ice ball/ice blast you coulda put her in the corner.

 

[RM Ree]

Almost anywhere you'd b12 xx clone to freeze vs a male character, b3 xx clone will work for a female character.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Why no flip kick punishes?

online

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Almost anywhere you'd b12 xx clone to freeze vs a male character, b3 xx clone will work for a female character.

i know i made the b2 b2 d3 b3 xx clone combo thats pretty good i just dont do it online bc i drop it lol

 

[boba_buster]

Your corner game is pretty solid , but sometimes it seemed like you didn't know what to do midscreen in the neutral. You should try playing a little with no variation to work on your fundamentals. After playing so much with unbreakable and no variation I'm more comfortable midscreen than anything else with sub. Try going for more b12 frame traps when you land those midscreen d4's and learn to step back when your out of sweep distance for the AA. Cassie specifically doesn't have many good ways to get in close so Cassie players like to jump in a lot , take advantage of that. Ree301 posted a lot of s1 AA combos a while back , you should check them out

 

[boba_buster]

And b33xxiceball connects on females , no need to meter burn it

 

[CoolChameleon]

online

Lol it doesn't matter, you can still punish it with a slide, or you can run up for pressure atleast.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Lol it doesn't matter, you can still punish it with a slide, or you can run up for pressure atleast.

im almost certain i did pressure him after i realised that i couldnt punish it

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Your corner game is pretty solid , but sometimes it seemed like you didn't know what to do midscreen in the neutral. You should try playing a little with no variation to work on your fundamentals. After playing so much with unbreakable and no variation I'm more comfortable midscreen than anything else with sub. Try going for more b12 frame traps when you land those midscreen d4's and learn to step back when your out of sweep distance for the AA. Cassie specifically doesn't have many good ways to get in close so Cassie players like to jump in a lot , take advantage of that. Ree301 posted a lot of s1 AA combos a while back , you should check them out

b12 frame traps?

 

[boba_buster]

D4 frame traps into b12 , it's + enought if they try anything b12 will connect

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

D4 frame traps into b12 , it's + enought if they try anything b12 will connect

i use f42 bc it hits even at max range

 

[xQUANTUMx]

And b33xxiceball connects on females , no need to meter burn it

This depends on how well your opponent knows the match up. EX freeze covers your bases in a lot of situations.

But in general yes

 

[Undeadjim]

Don't settle for slide punishes, you start going for online or easier punishes and you'll either fuck up or your offline play will fuck up. Case and point me when I tried to 11 punish a spin and not F3 as Jax. In regards to the flipkick.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

This depends on how well your opponent knows the match up. EX freeze covers your bases in a lot of situations.

But in general yes

it whiffs midscreen if they get hit by the 2nd hit of b33

 

[I GOT HANDS]

i use f42 bc it hits even at max range

F42 is the way IMO or just F4Clone

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Don't settle for slide punishes, you start going for online or easier punishes and you'll either fuck up or your offline play will fuck up. Case and point me when I tried to 11 punish a spin and not F3 as Jax. In regards to the flipkick.

i know thats why i was trying b12 every time lol only thing i try to slide punish are projectiles

 

[I GOT HANDS]

This depends on how well your opponent knows the match up. EX freeze covers your bases in a lot of situations.

But in general yes

I don't understand, what can they do even with match up knowledge to make this not be the case

 

[xQUANTUMx]

it whiffs midscreen if they get hit by the 2nd hit of b33

yes. It's not a question of IF. People I play regularly do it on purpose (other than armoring, etc)

 

[xQUANTUMx]

I don't understand, what can they do even with match up knowledge to make this not be the case

maybe I worded it wrong, my apologies.

Your (female in this case) opponent can read a b33 and take the second hit. if you clone, whatever. if you freeze she can block it and fcp you. Doing an ex freeze will cover your bases in this case because even if she takes the second hit, the ex freeze will hit her and she cannot block in time

 

[boba_buster]

Iceball connects on hit after b33 on female , doesn't matter if they block the first b3 , it combos just like b12xxiceball

 

[I GOT HANDS]

maybe I worded it wrong, my apologies.

Your (female in this case) opponent can read a b33 and take the second hit. if you clone, whatever. if you freeze she can block it and fcp you. Doing an ex freeze will cover your bases in this case because even if she takes the second hit, the ex freeze will hit her and she cannot block in time

Oh that's meta as hell. Is FCP freeze cancel punish? I've literally never seen that abbreviation before, it's interesting how your Mind just fills in the blanks lol


@boba_buster you sure? Can one of you guys check so we can get the hard word on this?

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Iceball connects on hit after b33 on female , doesn't matter if they block the first b3 , it combos just like b12xxiceball

nope

 

[xQUANTUMx]

Oh that's meta as hell. Is FCP freeze cancel punish? I've literally never seen that abbreviation before, it's interesting how your Mind just fills in the blanks lol


@boba_buster you sure? Can one of you guys check so we can get the hard word on this?

FCP = full combo punish.

I've tested this. It works midscreen. The only time taking the 2nd hit doesn't matter is when they are in the corner vs you.