MKX Character Tools

[Dankster Morgan]

F2 to full combo D4 for more pressure, so he kinda does. Not a traditional 50/50 though.

That's like saying kitana has a 50/50 because of her X-Ray. He sorta does but that's not really what a 50/50 is.

 

[The_Tile]

That's like saying kitana has a 50/50 because of her X-Ray. He sorta does but that's not really what a 50/50 is.

A 50/50 is an unreactable OH/Low mixup which is exactly what Cage's D4 and F2 are. Just because one of the options doesn't lead to a full combo doesn't make it any less of a 50/50. I do understand what you're saying though but technically it is a 50/50.

 

[KHTC Rated]

First off, nice post OP. It was a nice read.

Just a few things I noticed about Kotal:
- He should be in the "Next-Level Footsies" category
- War God should be in the "Air Control" category (great d2, ex oh sword is a bonus anti air)
- In the "Pressure" category, Sun/Blood god both have arguabley better pressure than War God (though they all can pressure) using meter (M)
- Blood God should be in the "Increased Chip" category (Crystal Totem increases all attack damage)
- In both parry sections, you should specify that it's Blood/Sun God (you did say you would be specific )

Nothing but compliments and encouragement for everything else! Please dont rip me apart TYM...

 

[Dankster Morgan]

A 50/50 is an unreactable OH/Low mixup which is exactly what Cage's D4 and F2 are. Just because one of the options doesn't lead to a full combo doesn't make it any less of a 50/50. I do understand what you're saying though but technically it is a 50/50.

I suppose. But compared to CO sonya it shouldn't even be mentioned.

 

[Odyessus]

HW Jax restands as well with his machine gun. You can do it without meter, much more consistent with meter though.

 

[Osagri]

I would put Jax pumpd up on the AA section. EXgotcha does 22% and gives u+3 re-stand. In mid it puts opponent pretty far but its not bad at all.

 

[Azmodeus]

What is the specification for a next level offensive/defensive tool?

What is cassie's disappearing hurtbox move? D/F+1?

You should specify that Raiden's run cancel is only available in TG.



I get what you're saying but mine wasn't really about MUs. More about the basic idea of what each variation does. To help people pick a character.

1. Offensive = Something that makes it easier to land a combo/pressure (Like hat orbit from KL) Defensive= Something that stops damage/pressure (like SZ's frozen Aura)
2. i believe it is f2, and the rest of the string with her baton
3. Fixed, thanks for the spot dude

 

[Azmodeus]

Johnny doesn't have a 50/50.
And Ferra/torr doesn't have a vortex.

there was a thread on the F/T forums about a kind of vortex that i noted by the entry. Check it out And Johnny's pressure makes you guess between his d4 and his f2. the d4 gives more pressure and the f2 gives damage.

 

[Azmodeus]

Great thread man! Can you please elaborate why do you think ermac has good zoning though? I don't think that's the case (at least in MoS) but I might be missing something.

Ermac can use his forcepush and teleport for keep away

 

[Dankster Morgan]

there was a thread on the F/T forums about a kind of vortex that i noted by the entry. Check it out And Johnny's pressure makes you guess between his d4 and his f2. the d4 gives more pressure and the f2 gives damage.

Pressure is a whole lot different than a full combo started. Everyones d4 gives them a frame advantage but that doesn't = a true low starter.

 

[Azmodeus]

There are a few things where Shinnok definitely fits the bill but he isn't listed

What are they, let me know and I'll add him

 

[ArmedCalf]

Hell Sparks puts him in a lot of categories. It's good for air control (and his air to air isn't even that bad tbh), it definitely controls space, all variations have an advancing normal with f2, d4xxHell Sparks is a crazy good footsie tool, Imposter has a self buff and he actually steals unblockable attacks in certain MU's. He also has his chip damage increased if he steals a move (d4xxHell Sparks does like 5% or more on chip alone)

 

[Israfel]

Thanks for for putting in the work/time/effort into creating this for the community @Azmodeus

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Shinnok has great block pressure (with meter), Impostor has a teleport, very good D2 (air control), and can convert a combo full screen with Necromancer.

Tremor pretty much has great air control overall. Has a restand in Metallic(Lava) as well.

For Space control you have Covert Ops when you mean Special Forces. Also, her J1 and D2 are great air control tools to consider adding to the list.

Looks pretty good so far.

 

[Blewdew]

there was a thread on the F/T forums about a kind of vortex that i noted by the entry. Check it out And Johnny's pressure makes you guess between his d4 and his f2. the d4 gives more pressure and the f2 gives damage.

Yeah but it's more of a Oki setup than vortex

 

[exflyingbooty]

you forgot assassin has a parry

 

[QUAN-FUSION]

there was a thread on the F/T forums about a kind of vortex that i noted by the entry. Check it out And Johnny's pressure makes you guess between his d4 and his f2. the d4 gives more pressure and the f2 gives damage.

Yes, I have seen the Ferra post and commented on it. The person who made it doesn't understand what a vortex is.

Alright, Ive never considered a low poke to be part of a 50/50 for cage but ok..
Couldn't they just low block and react to the overhead? Like they do with the 113 string?

 

[21122]

"Chars with Projectile Parries/Reflects"

I would put Erron Black under that. He can "parry" his own sand grenades with the slide

 

[Azmodeus]

Yes, I have seen the Ferra post and commented on it. The person who made it doesn't understand what a vortex is.

Alright, Ive never considered a low poke to be part of a 50/50 for cage but ok..
Couldn't they just low block and react to the overhead? Like they do with the 113 string?

D4 is 11 frames and F2 is 15 frames, I personally can't react to it but maybe some people can. Online, it's a true 50/50 though.

 

[Azmodeus]

you forgot assassin has a parry

Fixed, thanks for the addition!

 

[Azmodeus]

Very good idea for a thread, if this is something you wanna work on though I'd try and format it a bit better and refine some of the categories as stuff like characters with block pressure and characters with block damage are pretty much the same thing in this game.

What formatting things would make it easier to sift through? I'm assuming you mean things like spoilers and headings, which will just take time. Also, What categories do you think should be added/taken away other than the block stuff?