Low Profiling 1,2 into B2 Frame Trap

[greeneless]

1,2 is +3 on block,
B1 is 9 frames and hits mid (but has limited range)

Toe to toe, B1 should beat or trade with any attack in the game, but that is not the case

When fighting a character with a poking animation that leans their head back (out of the way of Liu's B1), their D3 will win despite being slower when accounting for frame advantage. There are further inconsistencies based on initial block state. Haven't tested every character yet but this looks like its going to be a mess to memorize when its done.

image reference:
"SB" stand block, "CB" crouch block
"Midscreen Far" means I only blocked the "2" in 1,2 because the 1 didn't reach me. The range can be replicated by simply getting hit by a B1 and having the AI continue to loop without dashing or moving. This is not low profiling, B1 doesn't have enough range to connect here.

 

[NaCl man]

Think b2 is 12 frames start up. Which with the plus frames would trade with a 9 frame and beat anything above.

 

[Parasurama]

1,2 is +3 on block,
B2 is 9 frames and hits mid (but has limited range)

Toe to toe, B2 should beat or trade with any attack in the game, but that is not the case

When fighting a character with a poking animation that leans their head back (out of the way of Liu's B2), their D3 will win despite being slower when accounting for frame advantage. There are further inconsistencies based on initial block state. Haven't tested every character yet but this looks like its going to be a mess to memorize when its done.

image reference:
"SB" stand block, "CB" crouch block
"Midscreen Far" means I only blocked the "2" in 1,2 because the 1 didn't reach me. The range can be replicated by simply getting hit by a B2 and having the AI continue to loop without dashing or moving. This is not low profiling, B2 doesn't have enough range to connect here.

B1 *

 

[OzzFoxx]

Wow, a response to a string is now enough to warrant a spreadsheet. That’s it, I’m done; I’m never going to be able to compete.

 

[greeneless]

Wow, a response to a string is now enough to warrant a spreadsheet. That’s it, I’m done; I’m never going to be able to compete.

Yeah I felt the same way I was fighting a kabal and scratching my head “why frame trap no work”

 

[greeneless]

B1 *

Yeah, that one, shit. Can I even edit a thread title?

 

[Parasurama]

Yeah I felt the same way I was fighting a kabal and scratching my head “why frame trap no work”

So you saying Kabal was winning with D1? I D1 when in doubt for the frame trap.

 

[greeneless]

So you saying Kabal was winning with D1? I D1 when in doubt for the frame trap.

If both players are perfect kabal D1 always loses but his D3 wins sometimes even though it’s slower

Kabal D1 can only win if B1 is out of range