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OK be more specific when you say true block infinite, just dont throw that sentence around and have people thinking it's for all characters in the game
OK be more specific when you say true block infinite, just dont throw that sentence around and have people thinking it's for all characters in the game
Look man, A-List ex forceballs are only +4 and don't jail into anything; because of the pushback any character can avoid any follow up with a backdash, or armor, or use any 7f pokes, or jump back, or whatever. You just don't know what you are talking about and almost everything you said in this thread is false...know your facts and avoid writing bullshit, thanks
I've never promoted block infinites. I said it was dumb he could jail it with dash cancels but would fine if he has to use run cancels. Which apparently still might not be fine since his mb bicycle kick keeps him positive and he can keep it going on some characters.
OK play Footwurk and tell me you block it 100 percent of the time, k?
Damn until this day I still thought there was that extra block stun frame. Good to know that it's shaving off one frame by specials rather than adding one by normals.
So everything has to lead to a mixup huh? So if someones low you gotta mix them up? What if a cage hits u with nutpunch, 4 to be super plus, jaill u into 114 and ex forceball to try and chip u out when you're low? If u block it he can follow up with f3 to try and continue since hes plus.
damn ok my mistake but there will be people who are going misread
This is false. There is no special "extra frame to come out of block stun" as some say.
Reversals remove one frame of block stun, that is a special property of reversals. Normals are not affected whatsoever from block stun.
After LK does Flying Kick MB followed by b12 doing a 6f normal will win clean, while a 7f normal will trade.
And as you can imagine, after Flying Kick MB, 6 or 7f normals will beat f213 clean, while 8f will trade.
So just to clear up the misconception that still is going around, there is absolutely no characters in the game who cannot trade with f213 after Flying Kick MB. However f2 has very high hit stun when trading, so it's doubtful that the 8f move helps.
To be very clear one last time:
Liu Kang only has a pseudo block infinite on Erron Black, Kenshi, Takeda and Jason while they do not have meter. This is a pseudo block infinite because a trade can still occur with an 8f normal. Every other character in the game can cleanly poke out of Flying Kick MB into F213 if timed properly. Several characters with 8f at fastest moves can use a low profile move in lieu (Kang) of a fast poke to escape. Such as Johnny D4, Kano d4, etc
Thats not how it works at all lol
It's how it works online
I did
i said 114 JAILS... and the dickrider has arrived. I was saying 114 jails. Im seeing so much shit about liu and jailing but i rarely see anyone talking about the bigger offenders. If what i write is bs feel free to hit ignore bro
Better pressure? Have you not been following this thread? At minimum, Liu Kang gets 9 blocked hits into a MB plus on block special, at the end of which he's pushed you to the corner from blocking, built meter, and now you have to guess to get out.
Iif you crouch the 4 then the 11 does not jail
I kinda agree, but Tempest has amazing footsies, best Oki in the game, and 2nd best damage in the game, and is safe on like everything, and also has an Overhead starter, better pokes, gets much damage out of his armor and has like the best hit box in the game (very relevant compared to LKs armor) and also 7f.
Man everyone is trying and failing at picking apart SylverRye's example... You can't crouch a 4 after nutpunch... The whole point he brought this up was just to discuss jailing in general. Anything into nutpunch gets you a guaranteed jailing 4xxSKRC, 114xxEX Forceballs and you remain plus. Thats all he was trying to say.
