Tech - Mournful Kitana's insane blockstring in Mournful (up to 31% chip) BIG CHARACTERS ONLY!!

[Konqrr]

Yes all characters can duck

I think you are mistaken. I tested about 5 characters before i passed out last night and only scorpion could duck under the return glaive.

 

[Colares]

Its better to take a guess on any mix up in general and if you guess wrong break instead.

Kitana 3 bars got you on the corner she 212 and you guessed wrong the combo will kill and you'll lose the match, so you break.
Kitana 3 bars got you on the corner she 212 and you guessed right the chip will kill and you'll lose the match, so you pushblock.

 

[Skedar70]

• Kitana (Mournful) - Reduced the block stun on the first Glaive of the Enhanced Glaive Throw by 8 (no longer jails from up close at min range)

Does this nerf remove the block string?

 

[xKhaoTik]

• Kitana (Mournful) - Reduced the block stun on the first Glaive of the Enhanced Glaive Throw by 8 (no longer jails from up close at min range)

Does this nerf remove the block string?

Yea. It's still safe tho. They can armor the glaive returning back but you have more than enough time to block. 212 ex glaive is still a block string on certain characters like raiden, but they can armor another loop attempt

 

[DevilMaySpy]

Yea. It's still safe tho. They can armor the glaive returning back but you have more than enough time to block. 212 ex glaive is still a block string on certain characters like raiden, but they can armor another loop attempt

Please edit the OP to correspond with the patch notes. Thanks in advance!

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Now we better spend 3 bars for B3 xray....I think?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Now we better spend 3 bars for B3 xray....I think?

This still works, but on large characters like raiden and erron. The timing is different and strict but she can still pull off the block string

 

[Loogaroo]

She just lost any chance for 50/50's that she could apply after an ex glaive too. Any fast armor move will beat her. So Kung Lao can launch her if she chooses to attack after ex glaive.
I guess Kitana is now mournful from losing any viability she had.

 

[Elias6999]

She just lost any chance for 50/50's that she could apply after an ex glaive too. Any fast armor move will beat her. So Kung Lao can launch her if she chooses to attack after ex glaive.
I guess Kitana is now mournful from losing any viability she had.

Just because a few select characterd can punish it doesn't mean its unviable. This variation still is better than Assassin, which is really ass as the name indicates

 

[xKhaoTik]

She just lost any chance for 50/50's that she could apply after an ex glaive too. Any fast armor move will beat her. So Kung Lao can launch her if she chooses to attack after ex glaive.
I guess Kitana is now mournful from losing any viability she had.

What? Stop lol. There's nothing wrong with this. It's still safe on block, still jails against certain characters and is still a good tool.

If anything, the nerf kinda made it better. Now she can use it for mind games. Throw out the blockstring, bait the armor or backdash and punish. If they don't do that, do the blockstring again

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Moved to Kitana general discussion

 

[xKhaoTik]

I play Assasin today against my friend using grand master Subz, then test parry on block in practice mode on Cassie with reversal flipkick and I have some conclusion about the new 7 frame parry
First the only thing that make [normals] canceled into parry safe against cassie is 21 parry (without holding). Everything else is either punishable by Cassie flipkick or push Kitana too faraway that flipkick misses (I'm sorry i didn't test with other characters). But if you do 21 parry and mash D1 trying to pressure, Cassie will hit you with flipkick before your D1 hits her, so 21 parry is negative on block
Unless you hold them to play mind game (baiting Mileena ex roll for example), it's not worth using 21 parry in footsie game or as upclose pressure.
But the new 7 frame does help her in the matches against Sub. If I'm stuck in the corner I can block his low option or react to parry the overhead (which is funny). The react is very hard to do though, I need more practice.

Lol what does this have to do with the topic of the thread tho

 

[Loogaroo]

What? Stop lol. There's nothing wrong with this. It's still safe on block, still jails against certain characters and is still a good tool.

If anything, the nerf kinda made it better. Now she can use it for mind games. Throw out the blockstring, bait the armor or backdash and punish. If they don't do that, do the blockstring again

Made it better for the opponent. Before, if they tried to interrupt, they'd get launched for over 30%.
So the opponent had to sit back as Kitana got a semi free throw, low launcher or overhead hard knockdown mixup.

Sure, now you can bait the armor and launch punish Kung Lao's spin, for example. But having them be able to armor and backdash is just adding more variables against the Kitana player.

And there was no reason to nerf her seeing she wasn't broken or overused. You have Tanya, Cassie and Kitana in the same game and you decide to nerf Kitana?

D'vorah and Quan Chi got fair nerfs, Shinnok got a fair buff. This was uncalled for.

She's still viable if we're comparing her to MK9 Jade

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Lol what does this have to do with the topic of the thread tho

lol wrong thread I'm sorry (this is what happens when u open 69 threads at the same time)

 

[SM StarGazer]

God I need practice with Mournful. She's so high up on my tier list. Kinda safe, doesnt rely on meter for combos(like at all really), builds its pretty ok just to either break, jail, swing momentum, or DP. Thought Id never use the damn rising fans. Now its like....a staple.

-P.S. Thank NRS for listening. Now nerf Goro.

 

[DarksydeDash]

And now goro descends farther into low tier xD

 

[YoShadowFiend]

24% and you can't armor 112124~ex hat spin. B321~ex hat spin is the one that is backdashable, and can only be armor punished by Cassie (Lao can block the armor attempt from any other character).

except reptile also. so cassie and reptile are probably the only two who can armor him.

 

[Temjiin]

@xKhaoTik have you got a tested number for the block adv on ex glaive? I don't think it's -48 like the game says haha

Wanna update the frame data website but don't have a tested number.