Video/Tutorial Kabal AntiWakeup Tech using Sweep and dash

[Eh SnOwY]

Was in a lab with kabal and found this cool tech with kabal that can easily distort opponents wakeup game, and if getting hit opponent will still take damage from the Saw blade.


i do Sweep, Dash and instantly cancel with ground saw

Here's a short video

New? Old? Viable?

Discuss

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

It's a bit old and new. Kabal has many ways to disable wakeups.
But this is the first ti'me that I've seen him to it meterless.
Have you tested against people or the AI?

 

[fr stack]

oh no he didn't
NERF !!!!









good shit snowy !! i predict salt

 

[1man3letters]

ya might want to take into account with some of the wakeups that the invincible frames dont work right on ex wakeup attacks in training mode unless tab is set to human

 

[Eh SnOwY]

It's a bit old and new. Kabal has many ways to disable wakeups.
But this is the first ti'me that I've seen him to it meterless.
Have you tested against people or the AI?

Just AI...

 

[Eh SnOwY]

ya might want to take into account with some of the wakeups that the invince frames dont work right on ex wakeup attacks in training mode unless tab is set to human

The saw still hits or they take damage

 

[NariTuba]

if they just hold block after the knockdown dont you get the nd blocked and full combo punished?

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

this could be pretty good, like if the opponent likes to play dead. I'd imagine this couldn't work on raiden lol

 

[1man3letters]

The saw still hits or they take damage

invincible, its not like with armor where they take damage.
like with jax dash punch the saw hits cause he flies the other way but im pretty sure mileena ex tele would not of been stuffed with 20 invincible frames on it.
what happens to the setup on tech roll also?
im guessing if they choose to lay on the ground the saw otgs and picks them up?

 

[Eh SnOwY]

invincible, its not like with armor where they take damage.
like with jax dash punch the saw hits cause he flies the other way but im pretty sure mileena ex tele would not of been stuffed with 20 invincible frames on it.
what happens to the setup on tech roll also?
im guessing if they choose to lay on the ground the saw otgs and picks them up?

Yeah i guess you're right. if using EX dash u can still do this if they roll and the saw otgs.
Seems like its more of a gimmick but its still a nice way to mess up the wakeup game

 

[Eh SnOwY]

if they just hold block after the knockdown dont you get the nd blocked and full combo punished?

you go over the opponent with the dash

 

[NariTuba]

you go over the opponent with the dash

what if they just hold jump to cross you over after you went through them? dont you get punished for the saw?

 

[Axel_Redd]

mix this up with throws, f4's and flash parry's, that outta give em hell ;D

 

[eskuAdradit0]

if they just hold block after the knockdown dont you get the nd blocked and full combo punished?

...ND is not an OTG. I don't think that happens unless they stand up right when kabal is close to them, but then they could risk it and stand when kabal throws his buzzsaw.

 

[AC1984]

Old yes, Viable...not really....if they don't tech roll, it will work...if they they tech roll and block (which happens 95% of the time) Kabal is screwed

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

Old yes, Viable...not really....if they don't tech roll, it will work...if they they tech roll and block (which happens 95% of the time) Kabal is screwed

You can see if they roll before the dash can come though. Then again, i don't see sweep being used all that much. This might happen once in a blue moon and catch them.

 

[AC1984]

I use the sweep all the time.....I don't go for that after playing Maxter and my buddy Swift....they all know how to deal with it.....If you wait for tech roll, the whole point of reversing the wake up is gone....When you sweep them, do the dash as fast as possible and take a risk....thats where the trick works.....

 

[Lulzlou]

I figured out a sweep set ups back before ECT4 in june. The problem with it is that people usually respect kabal after the sweep. What I usually do now is dash over and d3 to pick them up. Its match up dependent as far as effectiveness goes. A good example is when JC is trying to get in, sweep to start the set up. From there you can either walk back then continue zoning or dash over him for even more options. It works best against characters that try to get in on kabal.

I've actually tried it against a human and it works well. There is a lot of wakes up you can blow up even if there is a tech roll involved.

This is how you deal with tech rolls. Its tough to do for the timing because you can mess up and get blown up for it.

 

[AC1984]

Good stuff, as u mentioned....the timing is tough so imo the risk is not even worth it. most of the cast can punish it big time...the only time i would attempt that is to get out of the corner or something.....after 212 however i would totally attempt the crossup thing...

 

[Dizz_88]

damn it snowy kabal doesn't need anymore techs.... what about mil no new techs for that slut?

 

[Lulzlou]

damn it snowy kabal doesn't need anymore techs.... what about mil no new techs for that slut?

b3 is amazing; learn how to use it.

 

[Konqrr]

I was going to post about the tech roll but AC and Lulz beat me to it.

You also have to be careful against characters who can punish a blocked Saw. Even Kitana's slow ass 11 frame standing 2 can punish it for 50%.

 

[Dizz_88]

really lulzlou thanks for the advice.. but i already use the b3 (which is 21 frames and kinda slow)