May just be stating the obvious, but when joker gets in, we can drain a life bar. To get there is the true task at hand. Anything that finishes with crowbar will open up our opponent. What does the Joker community feel is the best way to get there? more defensive or more offensive. Of course I am speaking on the highest level of play here. I am truly trying to figure this out. jumping in opens up a lot, but makes me get too jump happy. not taking anything away from this post, this shit is beast! Just hoping that I am not alone in asking "how do we get there?"