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But I didn't want to dash
Fast walk speed would be a huge ninjitsu buff.
29 cast members.I currently believe he is in the upper half of the tier list
Mid tier is weird in this game.29 cast members.
Halfway point is exactly #15. For Scorp to be in the top half of the cast, he has to be higher than that.
I don't believe Scorpion is in the top half of the cast at all IMO. Hell I think he's likely a little bit lower still.
Just putting it out there.
Out of this list, he might be better than Kung Jin, Kitana and maybe Sonya. As I said though, that could change out of his favor drastically with more time, especially given that there's multiple under-explored variations within this list of characters and even some not on the list. Scorp's variations are very much laid on the table as to what they currently do, that's what I'm primarily stressing more so than his current tier position.29 cast members.
Halfway point is exactly #15. For Scorp to be in the top half of the cast, he has to be higher than that.
List in no order, just counting names
Which one is he better than?
- Kung Lao
- Jax
- Sonya
- Cassie
- Tanya
- Kung Jin
- Predator
- Shinnok
- Erron Black
- Liu Kang
- DVorah
- Kitana
- Raiden
- Quan Chi
I don't believe Scorpion is in the top half of the cast at all IMO. Hell I think he's likely a little bit lower still.
Just putting it out there.
Not sure if you saw my status about it, but I've been thinking...Make f4 a couple frames faster
You're on Ronin, Hs?@STRYKIE
While do not agree with some of the things you have suggested.. i cant deny that some/most seem very reasonable and thought out. Also, the fact that you pointed out that you do believe that he is in the Top half, tier wise, of the cast lets me feel you are being honest and just not down playing as so many others have, ..all the luck to you guys..
btw i really hate the scorpion takeda match up lol but.. hopefully NRS pays some attention and blesses the "needed adjustments/fixes" on both our houses... maybe then.. and only then.. could the Ninjitsu VS Ronin match up be a proper fight.
Hey if it makes you feel better, I don't feel comfortable using Hellfire against Shirai Ryu, lol. (it could just be a personal mental block than actual match-up tools)@STRYKIE
While do not agree with some of the things you have suggested.. i cant deny that some/most seem very reasonable and thought out. Also, the fact that you pointed out that you do believe that he is in the Top half, tier wise, of the cast lets me feel you are being honest and just not down playing as so many others have, ..all the luck to you guys..
btw i really hate the scorpion takeda match up lol but.. hopefully NRS pays some attention and blesses the "needed adjustments/fixes" on both our houses... maybe then.. and only then.. could the Ninjitsu VS Ronin match up be a proper fight.
yeah man.. i been labbing him a lot lately and taking him out in the open range more...id probably be using him solely today if i get on had not @Pleasa hand me my ass over the past few days in SR mirrors..lol..i gotta focus on some knowledge he dropped on me in the past 2 sparring sessions we had..You're on Ronin, Hs?
yeah as a tip, id prob use ninjitsu or inferno against SR takeda.. i feel the tools of these are alot harder to deal with ..Hey if it makes you feel better, I don't feel comfortable using Hellfire against Shirai Ryu, lol. (it could just be a personal mental block than actual match-up tools)
But yeah, I'll return the favor if Takeda players are looking to do this. Ronin can shove it though.
I agree, and that's why I'm unsure about it, that it would deter people from using Ninjutsu for it's established tools. But my line of thinking is that it gives Scorp an overhead option in 1 variation if people feels he needs it for a matchup, it just happens to be in Ninjutsu. I think because F4 is a universal normal, less start-up on it would have to be seen in practice in all variations and would be a far riskier buff IMO.To be more clear I don't think a fast single hitting overhead that knocks down would be a good addition to compliment ninjitsus playstyle.
Imo ninjitsu is fine as is. Especially if we want use out of the other variations. This is just how I feel as of now, the game is still very young.I agree, and that's why I'm unsure about it, that it would deter people from using Ninjutsu for it's established tools. But my line of thinking is that it gives Scorp an overhead option in 1 variation if people feels he needs it for a matchup, it just happens to be in Ninjutsu. I think because F4 is a universal normal, less start-up on it would have to be seen in practice in all variations and would be a far riskier buff IMO.
I've been thinking about those nerfs lately and I'm not too sure about that, he was pretty fucked pre-patch.What I would like though is a proper fix for the nerfs scorpion got in june. It fucked up too much imo.
I'm not saying to go back to pre patch. It's just that juggles off of 214 are very inconsistent. If they can do something about that it would be nice.I've been thinking about those nerfs lately and I'm not too sure about that, he was pretty fucked pre-patch.
Oh nvm then, thought there was gonna be a pre-patch discussion.I'm not saying to go back to pre patch. It's just that juggles off of 214 are very inconsistent. If they can do something about that it would be nice.
IMO he might be as good as quan chi and possibly Liu kang? The rest I'd say pretty much no way he is better. He's def right in the middle somewhere29 cast members.
Halfway point is exactly #15. For Scorp to be in the top half of the cast, he has to be higher than that.
List in no order, just counting names
Which one is he better than?
- Kung Lao
- Jax
- Sonya
- Cassie
- Tanya
- Kung Jin
- Predator
- Shinnok
- Erron Black
- Liu Kang
- DVorah
- Kitana
- Raiden
- Quan Chi
I don't believe Scorpion is in the top half of the cast at all IMO. Hell I think he's likely a little bit lower still.
Just putting it out there.
That would be nice considering that they didn't wait to fix dvorah lol.Oh nvm then, thought there was gonna be a pre-patch discussion.
And the 214 thing seems to be an unintended glitch, I'm pretty sure it'll be fixed in the next huge patch.
Of course, I'm just saying it's more of a utility improvement than a direct Ninjutsu buff.Imo ninjitsu is fine as is. Especially if we want use out of the other variations. This is just how I feel as of now, the game is still very young.
If they fixed up 123's collision issues on hit, that would be a good remedy, it can actually lead to more damage than 214 as a starter.I'm not saying to go back to pre patch. It's just that juggles off of 214 are very inconsistent. If they can do something about that it would be nice.
Scorp in his current state is as mid tier as you get, which in this game is a pretty good thing.IMO he might be as good as quan chi and possibly Liu kang? The rest I'd say pretty much no way he is better. He's def right in the middle somewhere
Edit: I don't think he is better than quan after thinking more about it lol. scorp is on the lower side of the middle of the pack characters most likely
yeah as a tip, id prob use ninjitsu or inferno against SR takeda.. i feel the tools of these are alot harder to deal with ..