Is UMK3 (Arcade) and UMK3 (NON-ARCADE Like: Ps3, Xbox360 etc..) the same?

[Shock]

Exacly Shock, and yes the 2006´s version of UMk3 is a good port the only shitty thing is that you can´t conf controls...
A question: Did you played the NDS Version? i dunno if you´re a pad warrior (too) but i´d played the NDS version with hanzo and we both feel the game just perfect.. almost arcade the only bad thing is that you got to play only in noob stage because it´s lagless... btw is stupid this but.. in the MK2 version of the PS3 or 360 instead of be slow is the opposite is: faster than Arcade..

DS version is fast, like MKT, but that's sort of an accident I think. If they would have locked the speed down to normal it probably wouldn't skip as much, it's almost like frame skip is set to auto and it doesn't know what to do half the time. Overall, it's a VERY good port for what it's worth.

 

[ded]

RZP, i'd say that the best versions (except arcade) are MAME, XBLA and MKAK PC, where MKAK PC is somehow like newest MAME versions. XBLA is very decent, but i just could not use the xbox pad for 2d mk games. MAME 0.64 has great input, but the frame skip is off if played on windows vista, 7,8... for some reason. If you can get your hands on Mame ++112, give it a try and let me know what do you think.

 

[nwo]

If I may put some info, there is something very important that must be said, about MAME emulation. The newer Mame versions have different input than older versions. Imo, 0.64 has the best input, when it comes to UMK3, and I'm not sure why, but in newer versions, it just feels somehow different. RZP, just try 0.64 and then lets say some newer version and you will notice the difference.

There's no question that Mame 0.64 inputs suck compared to newer versions of Mame. I only use .119 for offline and 0.64 even feels slower in p2p. Sometimes I test my controls offline in 0.64 and the difference is amazing, you almost need to re-learn the timing on your combos. I wish Mame 0.64 would just be a thing of the past because it sucks.

Edit: I would not compare newer versions of MAME to MKAK PC. There's a night and day difference.

 

[ded]

@nwo, offline 0.64k on windows xp has way better input than 119, read my previous post why 0.64 is bad on newer OS. online, however, is a different story.

edit: the input in latest mame versions seems very close to MKAK PC (i exclude the speed)... just to confirm, by newest i mean 145 and above. is it still day and night to you?

 

[Shock]

RZP, i'd say that the best versions (except arcade) are MAME, XBLA and MKAK PC, where MKAK PC is somehow like newest MAME versions. XBLA is very decent, but i just could not use the xbox pad for 2d mk games. MAME 0.64 has great input, but the frame skip is off if played on windows vista, 7,8... for some reason. If you can get your hands on Mame ++112, give it a try and let me know what do you think.

We've been running tournaments on ++119 for years now, if there's a better version let me know.

Also for frame skip in 32K64, it doesn't fix it if you toggle through with F9?

 

[nwo]

@nwo, offline 0.64k on windows xp has way better input than 119, read my previous post why 0.64 is bad on newer OS. online, however, is a different story.

edit: the input in latest mame versions seems very close to MKAK PC (i exclude the speed)... just to confirm, by newest i mean 145 and above. is it still day and night to you?

I was being a little hard on 0.64, I would choose it any day over MKAK for PC. I'm on XP by the way, when I use Mame.

MKAK feels like it runs at 30fps, my timing is off to the point where I can't even dream of doing certain combos, the sounds are way different also.

The newest Mame I've tried is like 0.128 or 0.134. I didn't see any reason to switch from .119 though. You just need to get used to whatever version you're playing probably, but I refuse to get used to MKAK.

Edit: I always have my frameskip set to 0.

 

[rzpmkkteam]

DS version is fast, like MKT, but that's sort of an accident I think. If they would have locked the speed down to normal it probably wouldn't skip as much, it's almost like frame skip is set to auto and it doesn't know what to do half the time. Overall, it's a VERY good port for what it's worth.

I remember the time of the UMK3 NDS where nobody say anything bad about the game, and yes its feel like MKT hahaha is faster than the arcade, so the thing is that faster=GOOD slowly=BAD.. maybe is not an accident maybe they do that in purpose isn´t?

 

[rzpmkkteam]

RZP, i'd say that the best versions (except arcade) are MAME, XBLA and MKAK PC, where MKAK PC is somehow like newest MAME versions. XBLA is very decent, but i just could not use the xbox pad for 2d mk games. MAME 0.64 has great input, but the frame skip is off if played on windows vista, 7,8... for some reason. If you can get your hands on Mame ++112, give it a try and let me know what do you think.

MKAK for PC? sounds like... doing a test.. yes could be a better version than PS3 or XBOX, never tried that, we played XBLA in that time using Arcade Stick vs matching against some guys from usa i´ll try the newst mame version to see it

 

[Shock]

I remember the time of the UMK3 NDS where nobody say anything bad about the game, and yes its feel like MKT hahaha is faster than the arcade, so the thing is that faster=GOOD slowly=BAD.. maybe is not an accident maybe they do that in purpose isn´t?

It feels inconsistently faster, as if the emulation isn't monitoring the speed of the game. IMO, even though I gladly play MKT, the game is stupidly/unnecessarily fast.

 

[dreemernj]

UMK3 DS definitely felt uneven to me. The arcade game is a bit unpredictable in terms of how much it has to do every tick of the clock. UMK3 DS plays well when its not maxed out and terrible when it is maxed out.

The arcade game is basically running its own mini preemptive multi-tasking operating system and the level you're on, the characters you're using and the order in which you are doing moves all has an effect on performance.

 

[nwo]

I found the latest version MAMEUI++ 0.155, the online appears to be garbage. Maybe the version I downloaded was compiled wrong, but offline it feels similar to .119 and the palette corruption issue appears to be fixed and the buttons are labeled (high punch, high kick, block, low punch, low kick, run) in the configuration menu.

I'd switch to it for either of these reasons alone @Shock, for offline tournaments.

 

[Shock]

I found the latest version MAMEUI++ 0.155, the online appears to be garbage. Maybe the version I downloaded was compiled wrong, but offline it feels similar to .119 and the palette corruption issue appears to be fixed and the buttons are labeled (high punch, high kick, block, low punch, low kick, run) in the configuration menu.

I'd switch to it for either of these reasons alone @Shock, for offline tournaments.

I'll check it out, what I'd really like is a mame with better plug and play function and easily assignable inputs.

 

[TONY-T]

Hi Tony, can you please tell me which mame version you're using on ps3? I've used RetroArch mame and others but none of them are emultating right.

Im using the latest retroarch mame and they seem to be good. You also need 0.78 mame rom set. That's pretty much the only set that works, but ive replaced the mk roms with the hacked versions and they still seem to run.. The only downside ive seen is that the sound sometimes messes up after a while on umk3.

 

[THTB]

Im using the latest retroarch mame and they seem to be good. You also need 0.78 mame rom set. That's pretty much the only set that works, but ive replaced the mk roms with the hacked versions and they still seem to run.. The only downside ive seen is that the sound sometimes messes up after a while on umk3.

With RetroArch, do you have any issues with saving configurations for 0.78 MAME? It might just be the Linux version being a crock of shit with MAME, but that's a prominent issue for me.

 

[TONY-T]

With RetroArch, do you have any issues with saving configurations for 0.78 MAME? It might just be the Linux version being a crock of shit with MAME, but that's a prominent issue for me.

Yep, i have the same issues. There is suppose to be a new version of RetroArch coming out soon, i hope it addresses this problem.

 

[Mgo]

@TONY-T @THTB you guys can use retroarch online?

 

[THTB]

@TONY-T @THTB you guys can use retroarch online?

It has a netplay option, but it's still WIP and doesn't really work all that well from what I hear.

 

[Mgo]

It has a netplay option, but it's still WIP and doesn't really work all that well from what I hear.

wip? but i saw that retroarch isnt anymore or im wrong, now is retroidnetplay and doesnt have mame core?

 

[THTB]

wip? but i saw that retroarch isnt anymore or im wrong, now is retroidnetplay and doesnt have mame core?

RetroArch is still going strong. RetroidNetplay has netplay, but it's Android-only and is very outdated.

 

[Mgo]

RetroArch is still going strong. RetroidNetplay has netplay, but it's Android-only and is very outdated.

oh i didnt know, i used the last year the windows version of retroarch. I tried online but was very weird there was weird speed, change of configurations at the time to play,and then I leave

 

[VenomX-90]

Idk but I need to download the Emulator again...

 

[sam76]

the MK AK is slower than original Arcade (MAME) ?
i found MK AK (PC STEAM) is faster !

 

[JRF]

What is everyone playing classic MK games on?

 

[MKF30]

I actually enjoyed UMK3 DS better than the 360 and definitely better than PS2 ports. But I love the 4 player KOTH option for 360. I want to download the arcade version and run it on my SNES classic, I've seen vids of people running arcade games on it and it runs fine which is amazing. I already have the SNES and Sega Genesis versions of UMK3 on there, it's awesome. I put MK 4 and MKT on it too, however MKT I had to take off because it actually froze when my friends and I were playing it. MK 4 runs smoother believe it or not but you can't use HK or LK...