Is Injustice too balanced to be hyped?

[xWildx]

Yeah, a sad game about a man's fall from grace and all the murder he's commited deserves happy cheery colours and farting rainbows. The game is meant to be depressing.

Did you just like.... ignore my entire post?

 

[Qwark28]

Did you just like.... ignore my entire post?

You ignored the possibility of the developers actually wanting this tone of colour.

 

[xWildx]

You ignored the possibility of the developers actually wanting this tone of colour.

And you ignored the fact that just because a game is somber the color doesn't have to be completely neutral by making up your own reason. But hey, to each his own.

 

[Qwark28]

And you ignored the fact that just because a game is somber the color doesn't have to be completely neutral by making up your own reason. But hey, to each his own.

Yes, but it makes perfect sense to have it so. There is a possibility it's just stupidity but the theme fits perfectly. Saying it's just stupidity is just as much of making your own reason.

 

[heymanjack]

Fighting games being balanced is never a bad thing. I'd rather have it balanced than hyped but being broken as hell.

 

[xWildx]

Yes, but it makes perfect sense to have it so. There is a possibility it's just stupidity but the theme fits perfectly. Saying it's just stupidity is just as much of making your own reason.

Where exactly did I say ANYTHING about "stupidity?" FG's, in general, are meant to be visually exciting due to the nature of what's happening on screen. But as I said, to each his own and we can agree to disagree. I'm done here.

 

[Lumpymoomilk]

Being balanced because everyone has something really stupid and safe is not really balanced in my opinion. The only differences between low tier and top tier in this game is top tier has more stupid shit and safe options than lower tiers. There's barely any risk for the reward so everyone just yolo's the fuck out of their character till someone wins. Balanced maybe, boring, definitely.

Don't want to go omg MK9 was so great bla bla bla, but there was actually some risks in there which made it much more interesting to watch for most matches anyways. Sonya's cartwheel and certain aspects of Kenshi were like injustice characters, just plain stupid. Go watch something like Tyrant vs CDjr Jax vs Jax compared to say EVO grand finals for injustice this year, sorry but injustice with top tier characters is a snooze fest.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

u r amazing

 

[Sasarix]

i would rather watch a 12 man local tournament for MK 9 on stream than a 200 man major for Injustice. I tried to watch the Injustice streams but it was just way to damn boring.
Imo the guys calling the matches also contribute to the hype but the people that get on the mic for Inj. and MK are just some of the worse I have ever had to sit through. I've actually turned off streams for MK9 and Inj that I thought were good matches but the commentary was horrible and made it unwatchable for me.

 

[trustinme]

Yeah,I've always found it very dull to watch and the reason for that is I feel apart from a handful of characters the majority of the cast is very 1 dimensional in the way you have to play them which leads to very few options in regards to creativity.its far too zoning heavy and defence based aswell and because the stages are so big and the movement so bad you can sometimes be sat there watching someone (which seems like a eternity) trying to get passed projectiles while stuck in quicksand.nah sorry,not fun to watch at all.

 

[T4T|Nevan]

It's a matter of personal preference at the end of the day, really.

I love the 'dark theme' of Injustice, I like the game's depth, the cast...it's a game I really like. So yeah, to me it's really fun to watch.

For instance I think Marvel is plain boring to watch, same teams all over, Virgil in every team and bla bla. I think it gets more people going due to its fast pace and all the shizzle flying around.

However I find it really 'stupid' to compare Injustice to MK, they are different games with different mindsets, why do you even spend time comparing 2 different games? Just because they are from NRS? Please.

People don't go and compare SF4 to SF 3rd Strike, right? Cause even though they are from the same company they are different games!

Treat Injustice as it is. Don't like the game? Don't play it. Boring to watch? Don't watcht it. Bought it anyway? Sell it. It's dat simple.

Just stop the bashing and downplaying if you don't play or like the game.

 

[deathblooms2k4]

The game is too slow. Hype happens from twitch reactions, great reads, "all in" gambles, etc. Everything is so slow in an injustice that you don't get much of that in addition spending all of your meter for Super is pretty much dumb in all cases and will hurt you even if you land it. Despite how ridiculous xfactor is, the comeback factor it provides makes marvel hype to watch. Where as Injustice is pretty cut and dry with little to know comeback factor. Maybe as the game matures further and people level up more and we see a higher level of play it'll become more interesting, but that'll hinge entirely on whether or not the active community continues to support the game and continue to level up.

Perhaps it's time for tournament organizers to experiment a little bit. Perhaps disable interactables and such and see how that changes the complexion of the game.

 

[TomlulsBrady]

Inj for the most part always feel like a struggle to watch beside REO, Tyrant, Chris g, KDZ( rushdown superman) and forever king to me and that's more cause of their character they play. Inj at evo 2013 was flat out terrible and I know people say the level of play was low at that time but mk9 2011 was way by better than evo 2012 and 2013 mk9 and it was mk9 first year at evo and still it was magical, I will never forget that tourny.

 

[T4T|Nevan]

Disable interetactables in Injustice is the same thing to disable x-factor in Marvel. Both are key components of the game!

People got used to comeback mechanics too much, they rely on them too much. Remember SF 3rd Strike? No xfactor, no nothing of those, yet it was a great game, aaaaaaand parry is gawdlike.

Inj for the most part always feel like a struggle to watch beside REO, Tyrant, Chris g, KDZ( rushdown superman) and forever king to me and that's more cause of their character they play. Inj at evo 2013 was flat out terrible and I know people say the level of play was low at that time but mk9 2011 was way by better than evo 2012 and 2013 mk9 and it was mk9 first year at evo and still it was magical, I will never forget that tourny.

LMAO. Again the MK comparissons. Would you drop it? MK has been around since '92 and Injustice is from this year! How can you even compare tournament stats when this game is so 'young' and there's things to learn about.

People need to give the game a chance to mature.

 

[Euphoric]

The colour of the game is almost non existant because it's not supposed to be a comic, it's superman's fall from grace and includes the tragic deaths of many heroes, even a 12 year old child, constant war with many innocent families dying, it's like you people don't get it at all.

The game is balanced outside Joker and 1-2 more chars at this period of time. I've seen so many char forums being all " waaa waa waaa" about 1 or 2 7-3 matchups. Play Joker for a few days, pussies.

Game sux

 

[Rude]

Game sux

Then don't play it/stop talking about it.

Poor-mouthing about how bad the game is accomplishes exactly nothing.

 

[T4T|Nevan]

I agree, but in fact it does accomplish something... makes people turn away from playing the game, those who are curious about it.

 

[@MylesWright_]

Injustice isn't hyped because rushdown is not a viable playstyle and footsies are at played at fullscreen distances

 

[RIF]

I am going to repeat what I wrote in another thread.

This is the single-most caustic community in the FGC. You have top players who actually enjoy INTELLIGENT discussion of the game and engage in these discussions with the community. The Marvel community has ONE person like that: Viscant. He is lauded for it. He doesn't bash the game and he doesn't pretend like it's not flawed. The community certainly doesn't cannibalize itself the way this one attempts to. Do they complain? Yes, but the overall mantra is, 'It's Mahvel, baby', and everyone accepts the current lay of the land.

This game also had a very active company supporting it. Capcom doesn't care about UMVC3. They provide zero support.

Injustice's balance WAS very good prior to teleport characters becoming too prevalent. There are a few outliers in terms of overall balance. (MMH and Joker being examples of opposite sides of the spectrum)

Injustice is in NO WAY a bad game. Different? More deliberated? Surely. Does that make it bad? No. It's VERY close to being a great game.

 

[RiBBz22]

Sorry, this will always be the best laugh in video games.

 

[Tony at Home]

Injustice isn't hyped because rushdown is not a viable playstyle and footsies are at played at fullscreen distances

Rushdown isn't viable, and zoning isn't viable.

The zoning characters absolutely destroy the rushdown characters, and then the zoning characters get destroyed by teleport characters and well-rounded characters.

The game is dominated by well-balanced characters that can fight a good range-war and rush down as well:
Superman, Black Adam, Batman, Aquaman, Batgirl, Zod, MMH…..

Top tier in this game has been dominated by these "well-rounded" characters since launch. I don't know why so few have seen this pattern- I suppose because everyone's been focused on SPECIFIC dominant characters, rather then the 1-in-common attribute they all have.

 

[T4T|Nevan]

I am going to repeat what I wrote in another thread.

This is the single-most caustic community in the FGC. You have top players who actually enjoy INTELLIGENT discussion of the game and engage in these discussions with the community. The Marvel community has ONE person like that: Viscant. He is lauded for it. He doesn't bash the game and he doesn't pretend like it's not flawed. The community certainly doesn't cannibalize itself the way this one attempts to. Do they complain? Yes, but the overall mantra is, 'It's Mahvel, baby', and everyone accepts the current lay of the land.

This game also had a very active company supporting it. Capcom doesn't care about UMVC3. They provide zero support.

Injustice's balance WAS very good prior to teleport characters becoming too prevalent. There are a few outliers in terms of overall balance. (MMH and Joker being examples of opposite sides of the spectrum)

Injustice is in NO WAY a bad game. Different? More deliberated? Surely. Does that make it bad? No. It's VERY close to being a great game.

This is so true. *manly tear*

 

[Sasarix]

Injustice is in NO WAY a bad game. It's VERY close to being a great game.

Both of those statements are your opinion. Not everyone thinks the same thing about the game. This whole thread is kinda pointless since the game being hype or not is up to the person watching/playing not the TYM forum users. You say its very close to being a great game and i say it's very close to being an ok game at best. Neither one of us is right or wrong we just have 2 different opinions on the game. I do think it's dumb to post threads or messages about how bad the game is or to just bash a game in general. They all have problems MK9, Inj., Marvel, SF none of those games are perfect but we play what we like and thats all that matters.

 

[Rude]

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Lobo. Grabs, armor, advancing specials, ridiculous damage, cross-up otgs, full-screen trait that does 29%...

Lobo is the real deal.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

. MMH major top 8? Not any.

Why do people keep saying this when REO was Top 8 at Summer Jam with MMH? Also, MMH is DLC.. How long did it take Skarlet to make major Top 8's? We haven't even had a major yet postpatch.

The thing is, when many of the MK characters you listed made top 8 it was a huge surprise. When Zod, Bane, GA, Raven, Lex, Grundy etc. make Top 8's postpatch will it really be that surprising?

You compared 2.5 years of MK to 8 months of prepatch IGAU -- seems like apples and oranges to me.

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The early months of Injustice majors (first 8):

GA (2)
Aquaman (1)
Batman (2)
BA (1)
Superman (2)

The early months of Mortal Kombat 9 majors (first 8):
PowerUp - Sub
PDP - Kung Lao
EVO - Kung Lao
UFGT - Kung Lao
Revelations - Kabal
CEO - Reptile
NCR - Kabal
ECT3 - Kabal

So Kabal (3) Kung Lao (3) Reptile (1) Sub (1)