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Investors want to kill off Xbox

Not surprising investors want this.

Investors are people who can take their stock out at any time. They're ok with a strategy that get's short term returns but screws the company over the long run- because they'll have sold their stock before that happens.

Specifically, Microsoft's Entertainment Division is its least profitable. Given the profit margins of other divisions, it's actually laughable how little money Microsoft makes off it's entertainment sector, which includes the Xbox One.

However, like most newspapers that still print hard-copies of their paper, they know that just because something isn't profitable, doesn't mean it's worthless. The New York Post, from what I saw last, is a monetary black hole for News Corp. But they'll never get rid of it. Having your paper visually seen on the street corner is advertisement- it directs people to view their website etc which is actually profitable.

Same goes for the Xbox One and Bing. They're not exactly big profit machines, but having them out there keeps Microsoft's name out there. Xbox One makes use of Skydrive, which integrates with Outlook, which in turn integrates with their Office Suite, which is highly profitable.

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This is actually a common "do this now so you get quick stock rises, then we can short it for a crapload of money while you suffer a year later for it." demand from investors. Microsoft will of course, ignore it because they know it will just screw them over.
 

thehadou

Bumbling towards greatness.
Its a single investor calling for the sell-off of the XBOX product lines. Considering Gates has already stepped down as chairman to be a consumer product advisor, at Nadella's request, it would seem unlikely that there is going to be a jettisoning of the consumer market in the immediate future.
 

Sasarix

"Heaven Will Fall!"
Its a single investor calling for the sell-off of the XBOX product lines. Considering Gates has already stepped down as chairman to be a consumer product advisor, at Nadella's request, it would seem unlikely that there is going to be a jettisoning of the consumer market in the immediate future.
"Two influential Microsoft shareholders" <--- from the article. Just pointing out it's not 1 guy its 2 of them with some pull. I still doubt that they will kill off the Xbox division but then again this is MS and they love doing stuff ass backwards.
 

thehadou

Bumbling towards greatness.
"Two influential Microsoft shareholders" <--- from the article. Just pointing out it's not 1 guy its 2 of them with some pull. I still doubt that they will kill off the Xbox division but then again this is MS and they love doing stuff ass backwards.
Only Paul Ghaffari has publicly announced the Xbox should go. Multiple investors are discussing removing many of the consumer level activations Microsoft is known for, but double-checking online it seems to be just Paul chasing an exit from gaming right now.
 

EGGXI

Scary Bat
Hmm. I know games etc. have apparently become more expensive to develop for next-gen, and thus the cost of making maybe doesn't live up to the sales anymore.

I know consoles generally sell at a loss, and it's the games and subscriptions that make profit.

The issue being that I guess there aren't many new subscribers, mainly the same ones as on 360. But surely the money coming in from XBL Gold is greater that the cost of hosting all the online?

It'd be pretty interesting if it happened. Imagine if they discontinued the Xbox and Nintendo (who aren't doing so hot apparently) just became a developer for their First Party IPs. PS would be the only remaining console, and it could have everything on it.

It would be weird/interesting seeing what happens in a competitive vacuum.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
You never want to have a single console. Competition is what makes industry exciting.

Imagine Apple without Microsoft etc. They need reasons to change.
 

Jeffreys

Grundy think you handsome!
It won't happen, even if the Xbox was not profitable they would not sell it.

Bill Gates once mentioned a while ago that he didn't care that an enormous amount of people in China back in the day constantly used unverified/torrented versions of Windows, as long as they did not switch to Linux which is a free OS. Now Microsoft has quite a strong foothold in China and nearly all their major companies use Windows instead of a common sense free OS like Ubuntu because people there are more comfortable with Windows.

This speaks to Microsoft's philosophy of being relevant in everyday peoples life. With the Xbox their goal isn't just video games, it is an entertainment system. A living room experience "for the whole family to enjoy" not just about selling Gears and Halo. Xbox Live already has a massive amount of media associated with it, and you can already do TV/Netflix/Sports/Skype/etc on Xbox Live.

Kinect for all the flak it gets from gamers has a massive amount of potential with its technology. There are plenty of major companies like Toyota who have already licensed the technology which is now being used in their own cars! As the Kinect improves it will be used for far different purposes than just "Kinect Sports." There is an enormous new market in this area that Microsoft will be spearheading in the future, and who better to test than everyday people? That is why the Kinect is bundled with the Xbox even though it means that it will cost the consumer 100$ more, the data the Microsoft acquires will be used to constantly improve the Kinect in which the technology would further make the technology far more appealing to massive corporations who need the technology for their own purposes.

Never look at anything Microsoft does at face value, there is always a far greater method to their madness. While Microsoft has declined under the stewardship of Steve Balmer (who in fairness was always a business person who cared about profits) the overarching philosophy that Microsoft has stayed the same. The new CEO of Microsoft will probably do things more along the line of how Bill Gates once ran the company since unlike Balmer they are both engineers and tech guys, so their motive won't be just profits but relevancy and control.