Injustice: The True Top 10 Characters based off of tournament results by P2W (NA edition)

[PLAYING TO WIN]

When it comes to "who's the top 10 characters in Injustice?" you might want to consider a list that has been formulated by PLAYING TO W1N . He has gathered the list of what he is calling the "true top 10" character based off of tournament results. These results are based off of tournaments with at least 100 participants.

~ STORMS

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The True Top 10's (as of 8/23/13) Based on the First 5 majors in Inj.....​

In a widely subjective FGC, I give you the ONLY ​

objective thread the history of fighting games. Behold, ​

your Top 10's based on Major Tournament results.*​

twitter @playing_to_w1n​

Does this motivate you? Make u salty? This is purely for conversation and does not hold any credibility beyond what it is. Have fun guys! Discuss!​

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The 'True' Top 10 Characters**​

1) Black Adam​

2 tie) Superman​

2 tie) Batman​

4 tie) Green Arrow​

4 tie) Aquaman​

6) Scorpion​

7 tie) Green Lantern​

7 tie) Killer Frost​

9 tie) Raven​

9 tie) Sinestro​

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The 'True' Top 10 Players***​

1) NYChrisG = 89 points​

2) KDZ = 38 points​

3) REO = 36 points​

4) Rico Suave = 30 points​

5) FOREVER KING = 25 points​

5) Tom Brady = 25 points​

7) Perfect Legend = 18 points​

7) WoundCowboy = 18 points​

7) DJT ( DJT/MIT ) = 18 points​

10) Arturo ' Sabin ' = 17 points​

10) CD jr. = 17 points​

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* Event must have >100 entrants. The events:​

1) EVO 2013​

2) Summer Jam 7 (SJ7)​

3) East Coast Throwdown (ECT5)​

4) Ultimate Fighting Game Tournament 9 (UFGT9)​

5) CEO 2013​

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** Based on the number of appearances in Major Tournament's Top 8 finishers​

Black Adam (10 appearances)​

1) Rico Suave (1st SJ7, 7th CEO 2013)​

2) NYChris G (3rd SJ7, 3rd EVO 2013, 3rd ECT5)​

3) Perfect Legend (2nd CEO 2013)​

3) REO (2nd ECT5)​

3) Godspeed (5th UFGT9, 5th EVO 2013)​

5) Dragon God (5th ECT5)

Superman (6 appearances)​

1) KDZ (3rd CEO 2013, 1st EVO 2013)​

2) MF Slayer (4th EVO 2013)​

3) CD Jr. (4th ECT5, 5th CEO 2013)​

3) Theo (5th EVO 2013)

Batman: (6 appearances)​

1) Forever King (2nd SJ7, 5th UFGT9)​

2) REO (2nd ECT5, 7th EVO 2013)​

3) NYChris G (3rd ECT5)​

4) Darth Arma (4th SJ7)

Green Arrow (5 appearances)
1) NYChris G (3rd SJ7, 3rd EVO 2013, 3rd ECT5, 1st UFGT9, 1st CEO 2013)

Aquaman: (5 appearances)​

1) Tom Brady (1st ECT5)​

2) Riyo (5th SJ7)​

2) Godspeed (5th EVO 2013)​

4) Insaynne (7th ECT5​

4) Dizzy (7th UFGT9)​

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Scorpion (4 appearances)​

1) Perfect Legend (2nd CEO 2013)​

2) DEG (4th CEO 2013)​

3) REO (5th CEO 2013)​

3) CD Jr. (5th CEO 2013)​

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Green Lantern (3 appearances)​

1) DJT (2nd EVO 2013)​

2) Arturo 'Sabin' Sanchez (3rd UFGT9)​

3) Jailhouse (7th ECT5)​

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Killer Frost (3 appearances)​

1) Khaotik (5th SJ7)​

2) CD Jr. (5th CEO 2013)​

3) PR Balrog (7th EVO 2013)

Raven (2 appearances)​

1) Forever King (2nd SJ7, 5th UFGT9)​

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Sinestro (2 appearances)​

1) Woundcowboy (2nd UFGT9)​

2) PLAYING TO WIN (7th SJ7)​

Wonder Woman (2 appearances)​

1) REO (5th CEO 2013)​

1) MF Slayer (4th EVO 2013)​

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Harley Quinn (2 appearances)​

1) DEG (4th CEO 2013​

2) Salt Face (7th CEO 2013)​

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Doomsday (2 appearances)​

1) DJT (2nd EVO 2013)​

2) Crazy Dominican (5th ECT5)​

Ares: (1 appearance)​

1) alucarD (7th UFGT9)​

Cyborg (1 appearance)
1) Jailhouse (7th ECT5)

Death Stroke (1 appearance)
1) Slips (4th UFGT9)

Martian Manhunter (1 appearance)​

1) REO (7th SJ7)​

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Nightwing (1 appearance)​

1) REO (2nd ECT5)​

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(ZERO appearances)
Bane, Batgirl, Catwomen, Flash, Hawkgirl, Joker, Lex Luthor, Lobo, Shazam, Solomon Grundy, Zatanna, Zod
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*** Based on the following point system:​

1st Place = 25 points​

2nd Place = 18 points​

3rd Place = 13 points​

4th Place = 10 points​

5th Place = 7 points​

7th Place = 5 points​

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1) NYChris G = 89​

2) KDZ = 38​

3) REO = 36​

4) Rico Suave = 30​

5) Tom Brady = 25​

5) Forever King = 25​

7) Perfect Legend = 18​

7) Wound Cowboy = 18​

7) DJT = 18​

10) Arturo 'Sabin' Sanchez = 17

10) CD Jr. = 17​

12) Godspeed = 14​

13)@gga Slips = 10​

13) DEG = 10​

13) MF slayer = 10​

13) Darth Arma = 10​

17) Riyo = 7

17) Khaotik = 7​

17) Dragon God = 7​

20) PLAYING TO W1N = 5​

20) Jailhouse = 5​

20) alucarD = 5​

20) Salt Face = 5​

20) PR Balrog = 5​

20) GGA Dizzy = 5​

20) Insaynne = 5​

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

STORMS

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

as far as I know Vindication in socal had exactly 100 entrants

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

This is pretty awesome.

 

[BarryWhite]

I don't think limiting tournaments to over 100 entrants only is a good idea because there are only what, 20 or 30 top players? Say 50 for the sake of argument. After that, it's just fluff.

A 50 man tournament with all the top players is as good as a 100 man tournament surely? Quality not quantity?

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

also for character you should list all of them, would be interesting to see

 

[xInfra Deadx]

More lists...bleh.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

all of what? i did list them all...

like ALL of the characters, even the ones past top 10

 

[godlessmode]

Did you use ELO or some other competitive statistics approach? Because otherwise the weighting of the values is going to be misleading and the ranking/scores won't accurately reflect reality. (Based on historical analysis of chess, tennis, and other 1v1 competitive endeavors).

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

I don't think tournament results a true indication of a top 10. A big part of it yes, but not the entirety

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

read it again... it is the top ten based on a point system and appearances.

yes I'm aware, that's why I said it would be interesting to see how they rank past the top 10

or were there only 10 characters that showed up top at majors?

 

[Astrocytic]

My only disagreement is with the placement of Scorpion. He's not top 10. (Current Scorpion)

Everything else, I agree.

 

[G4S Silent Jay]

I do find it funny that all of Scorpion's Top 8 placements were at CEO, where he was hardly played in Top 8, which was all pre-patch.


Still, awesome to see a list that goes based on the results and not "I have a hard time against this character so they MUST be the best (and need to be nerfed/normalized)!".

 

[godlessmode]

The elo formula looks like...





E_A = 1 / ( 1 + pow( 10, ( (R_B - R_A) / 400 ) ) )
R_A_N = R_A + round( K * (S_A - E_A) )
E_A = expected score for player A
R_A = real/current ELO-score of player A
R_B = real/current ELO-score of player B
*K = weighting factor - normally 15, for top-players 10, for beginners 25
The 'Ducati-Style'-CTF-League uses a value of 50 to get more significant changes for the scores after a match!
S_A = match result of player A (1 for a victory, 0.5 for a draw, 0 for a defeat)
R_A_N = new ELO-rating of player A
Assuming a fresh start, you would put everyone at 1000 and then let the system rank them up/down from there.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

Wait how can cd jr be a top 10 player? Isn't he just trash shit and garbage that has never done anything in injustice or never will?

 

[godlessmode]

i know... how do i explain that though? this is purely off results so in time he will drop off

Heavy weighting per event. Older events get weighted much less, it helps to illustrate the change in meta/characters.

 

[Alien Substance]

can a mod help me here...the formatting keeps playing games with me

The insulting towards Shujinkydink was unwarranted.
For your question: what are you trying to do, that causes formatting to play around with you?

 

[ZalliX]

Nice post, thanks for taking to the time to do this ! PTW

 

[godlessmode]

although i agree with you, as a game evolves and characters evolve i think it will take care of itself. this is as objective as i wanted to get. im not trying to use a nascar point system. maybe this can me the 2013 rankings and it resets in 2014 or something

Yeah, it was just a suggestion. I'm actually working on a FGC Elo system currently as part of my larger stats project.

 

[Red Reaper]

Haha.. Green Arrow.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

That took a lot of time

 

[Red Reaper]

results don't lie man

What makes a character get up there btw?

Does Raven appearing in Grand Finals for Summer Jam kount? What are the restrictions?

 

[SaJa]

Where the fuck is doomsday ? This char won more tournaments (majors..) that any other char..

 

[Alien Substance]

when i edit the post it changes the size of everything... a variety. when i edit it changes all the spacing.

This is likely a problem with the size of the edit box, compared to the size of the message posting box that you used for the original post.

The spacing problem sounds like it has to do with the fact you are using the Arial font in the original post. Somehow, not using the default Georgia font causes some errors with the spacing.

 

[sethstronghold]

based on appearances in major tournaments top 8s. they more a character appears in top 8s the high on the list they go. currently black adam is the most used character in the top 8 of majors

raven has 2 appearances and finished on average higher than say... sinestro

You do realize that there isn't an overwhelming correlation between character skill and player skill. Just because black adam has won the most tournaments doesn't mean he's the best character. A great player maining bane will beat a good player maining black adam anyday, but that doesn't mean bane is better than black adam (how can you even make an intelligent argument off your stupid logic?) Look at the stats from "most popular characters in fighting games" on event hubs, it says that the highest percentage of highly skilled players main superman, which means superman is the best (experience of the community will back this claim). Your stupid list means nothing.