WITNESS
Worlds Famous
Tell that to grossDude honestly said GL's mixups in the corner are NEARLY as good as flashs... hahahaha. I'm done.
Tell that to grossDude honestly said GL's mixups in the corner are NEARLY as good as flashs... hahahaha. I'm done.
Damn nothing to say?Lmfao.
ok bro
There's no use in arguing lol. There comes a time where people's minds are made up. No point wasting your time.(Constant Safe 50/50's) Guess you never played batgirl or just push block
(Full Screen move to whiff punish into good damge into more mixups) Not full screen but close, and also I don't get why its so hard for people to hold down midscreen or to not do anything unsafe midscreen against flash
(Trait to give almost 60 percent damage for one bar (essentially this will end each round barring clash) ) Notice what you said here TRAIT, yes I get 60% with one bar using TRAIT. While some other characters get to do 40%+ one bar or no bar (wonder women) mid screen combos and get a free OTG interactable that adds 20% unscaled damage, Flash's highest bnb combo is 36% midscreen. I can only do the trait combo twice in a match and that combo is not easy to do. So I don't see a difference between characters getting the same amount of damage using an interactable without using their TRAIT after a combo and flash doing the same thing using his TRAIT that he can use only two times a match.
(RMS cancel to give tons of frame traps) The only thing a flash player can do after RMS cancel is throw (which you can tech on reaction) or D1. You can
punish the overhead on reaction, you can back dash or again simply push block
(Best corner mixups in the game) Damn you must of forgot that batgirl, GL, wonder women, doomsday, superman, bane, catwomen, hawkgirl, and MMH are in the game
(best mixups in the game flat out) read above^^^^^^
(Extremely hard to zone with Speed Dodge and headbutt) So I guess Doomsday, bane, batgirl and hawkgirl are easy to zone?
ect. ect. ect.
Just hold away from the corner for j3 mixups. Only thing scary is f3 cross ups.Tell that to gross
I just think a lot people don't know the MU or are just scrubs because they act like flash is unbeatableThere's no use in arguing lol. There comes a time where people's minds are made up. No point wasting your time.
No reason to type it out. You're clearly bad and don't know what you're talking about.Damn nothing to say?
He does more than f3 cross upsJust hold away from the corner for j3 mixups. Only thing scary is f3 cross ups.
Like what?He does more than f3 cross ups
lol your not going anywhere, if Iam so bad and I don't know what Iam talking about please prove me wrong I have an open mind I would like to learn why Iam wrong and you are right.No reason to type it out. You're clearly bad and don't know what you're talking about.
It would take 3x as much writing as you did to tell you why you're wrong in almost every aspect but there's no point to it. There's never going to be a patch for this game so this is all for nothing to be quite honest. I'm just disappointed that a good player like Honeybee would be so quick to defend his OP character but I understand why.
I never said people said he was unbeatable and said people act like he is unbeatable please quote rightNo one said he was unbeatable, stop putting words in people's mouths.
He does this one string that goes into an over and he mixes in b1 pretty good too in the cornerJust hold away from the corner for j3 mixups. Only thing scary is f3 cross ups.
ok I'll give you a quick summary.lol your not going anywhere, if Iam so bad and I don't what Iam talking please prove me wrong I have an open mind I would like to learn why Iam wrong and you are right.
No one is acting like he's unbeatable. We are saying he's very good and top 5 and probably OP. If they top tier were toned down you don't think Flash should as well? He'd run the game easily if he was allowed to be how he is now if everyone above him was nerfed.I never said people said he was unbeatable and said people act like he is unbeatable please quote right
Very good post. But do not give Witness anything. He is either being an ignorant fool or deceiving. Probably both.-I'll give you the RMS cancel paragraph. I honestly don't play this game TOO much anymore so they could indeed be gimmicky, I honestly cannot back my claims up as much as I want to.
I gave it to him cause I could not retort, but thank you. And yeah I know, I don't wanna call honeybee out for that cause I genuinely like his gameplay either way.Very good post. But do not give Witness anything. He is either being an ignorant fool or deceiving. Probably both.
b+2,2 xx RMS is +7 on block. d+1,2 cannot be interrupted. f+2 is the safe overhead that also catches most back dashes. b+2,2 xx RMS also catches most back dashes. Honey Bee uses these mix ups well. They are anything but gimmicks.
Speaking of Honey Bee, I assume Injustice is his first competitive fighting game, so he believes that safe 50/50 mix ups are the norm in fighting games.
ok I'll give you a quick summary.
-Safe 50/50's are BS. You're bringing up characters like Batgirl for why flash is OK when NO ONE is saying Batgirl's are ok. This is also one of the reasons why batgirl is top 3 while flash is only top 5. You cannot pushblock 50/50's. You block them. Then you can pushblock. 50/50s mean guess. Pushblocking doesn't save you from guessing the initial hit.
-Superman GL, Doomsday all have good corner games I'm not denying that, but Flash's corner game consists of OTG's, Left/Right mixups, Up/down mixups that are Safe or Plus on block that lead into more setups. DD doesn't have NEARLY as much options as flash, neither does Superman or Green Lantern (Supermans divebomb is negative or unsafe as well, so...). Batgirl has a great corner game but I'd say hers is top 5 while Flashs is definitively top 1. Not saying Batgirl's corner game is bad by ANY means. Also I think Lex has a top 3 corner game but he doesn't have as many tools as the top 5 do anyhow so...
-Trait giving 60 isn't really fair not because other's can get good damage without trait, it's also because it corner carries and he can do it regardless of where he is on the screen (note:interactable usage is not guaranteed unlike trait combos are). However, I don't really have a problem with his trait combos as much as I do other stuff. All the traits that are better than Flash's are pretty much top 5-10 characters and most underneath him don't have nearly as many tools as him (say, Batman for example?)
-I'll give you the RMS cancel paragraph. I honestly don't play this game TOO much anymore so they could indeed be gimmicky, I honestly cannot back my claims up as much as I want to.
-Also he does have the best mixups in the game, bar none. Batgirls are very good but midscreen she doesn't get as much damage, and her offense isn't nearly as oppressive. But I'd say they are probably 1/2 in the game mixup-wise so eh. Arguing semantics at this point.
-Regarding near full-screen headbutt. It's very hard not to do anything that can be punished by a ten frame near full screen move. Especially if flash already hit you for nearly 60 percent and is waiting for you to do the next move (assuming you got out of his ridiculous mixup and pressure game... but that's besides the point). And you HAVE To do something cause if not he's just gonna get trait back. You honestly said why is it hard for people to just (do nothing) when flash is full screen away from you? Holding down doesn't win you the match and let's flash wait time out for trait, or build meter by whiffing speed dodge.. or dash in for more pressure... etc. etc.
That's the just gist of it. Once again no real reason to bring most of this up since there's never going to be another patch but I don't get why people are defending how BS flash is of a character. I've used most characters at one point or another.
lol
b22 is only +3 not 7 on block, d12 can be interrupted by a 7 frame move or less.Very good post. But do not give Witness anything. He is either being an ignorant fool or deceiving. Probably both.
b+2,2 xx RMS is +7 on block. d+1,2 cannot be interrupted. f+2 is the safe overhead that also catches most back dashes. b+2,2 xx RMS also catches most back dashes. Honey Bee uses these mix ups well. They are anything but gimmicks.
Speaking of Honey Bee, I assume Injustice is his first competitive fighting game, so he believes that safe 50/50 mix ups are the norm in fighting games.
b+2,2 is +3 on block.b22 is only +3 not 7 on block, d12 can be interrupted by a 7 frame move or less.