When you see your opponent jump in at your or cross you up, you can use ex fade to make that jump attack whiff, and trip guard them with roll, or use something like 21 or b22 and hit confirm those if you are unsure that you'll be able to roll them before they hit the ground, I find I only need to use this against kj's ji1. But some thinks like sonyas dive kick will act as if you blocked it and you can whiff punish.
unless i'm missing something you can't anti air sub zero if you jump in during ice clone set up
A Mileena player complaining about jumps is like a Smoke player complaining about zoning or a GM SZ player complaining about Rushdown
You absolutely can AA Sub with the clone up, no matter what, jumping exposes everyone to the risk of being AA'd or trip guarded. You just have to be smart about what you do, if subs constantly doing a jump in from behind the clone, you can meet him in the air and njp, her nip is a great way to shut down jump ins from a longer range, also, if timed right, you can roll. It will hit and the clone will disappear.
at that point we're talking about a read not reaction and i believe all the options mention by RyRy were all reaction options B1, D1, Roll all get beat my clone. if you're talking njp we're leaving mileena territory and going to every character in the game and yes every character can anti air on a read which if you guess wrong and njp against sub-zero it's like over 40%. so yeah clone up changes things a lot. it takes it from safe anti airs on reaction to unsafe anti airs on a read
? BRC has some of the best jump in attacks in the game IMO. His j1 is hard to anti air, and so is his j2. His j2 is super plus on hit.
It also counters JIK's because they get stuck in the air for a second. I learned that from experience
Doesn't ex fade prevent her from getting inputs reversed also?
They are pretty big offenders but Takeda's whips are just too much.
TBH If the NJP are nerfed how will we deal with low profiling pokes
I've used AA roll against sub with the clone up... it's up to you to make it hit him out of the air. If you're letting sub jump all over you with the clone, you're playing the MU wrong. From full screen sai won't trade with ice ball. He can't just set up clones in the neutral for free against mileena. You can react to a jump with njp from mileena, it's 6 frames, the second fastest njp in the game. If you're referring to all of this happening in the corner, then of course you'll have piss poor options, you're in the corner against GM Sub. That's his whole game plan, but mileena is one of the hardest characters for sub to actually get to the corner. If you do something and run into clone, that's on you, not the clone, that's like saying I drove into a wall because someone put a wall there. No, you drove into the wall.
in a scenario where sub calls a clone midscreen while mileena is trying to walk in an play footsies but she reacts to the clone and stops her self right in front of the clone i don't understand how you're using ball roll or anything to anti air subzero and if you can in this scenario then you can also do the same in the corner
If you're consistent enough with it, you can special cancel a MB fart after the 4 hits for a full combo.
Well I'm not walking towards the fucking ice clone..? Why would you do that? If you're going to sub and not making him come to you as mileena, it's obviously going to help him. But if you were to stop right in front of clone then yeah, rolling into ice clone is a bad idea lol but if I'm not in the corner, I'm doing everything in my power to get away from the clone.
Don't understand the mentality of just straight keep away. Like yes break the ice clone and yeah try to zone him out but at a certain range if you keep trying to run away from footsies you're just gonna get backed into the corner especially cus of how good slide is for getting in
What if i wasn't mileena? explain that. Even tho everybody for sure has anti air besides the D2. Because for sure you're thinking of the ball roll because that's what pretty much makes her a great anti air if i am using ethereal. i ain't speaking of half screen jump and ball under him. No, i am talking about cross ups and really up close to you. Yes i do know ball roll can be confirmed easily for anti-cross up but the problem is....i am not expecting it.
