Ideal character

[Wigy]

So say you could put a character frankenstein style made up from other characters moves and specials and he/she/both? had:

5 normal combo strings

5 specials ( with a possible extra if u chose to have a sheeva hitbox) Obv close mid far projectiles count as one special

And why? I have been using the forum for a wee while now and havent seen one of these but im sure there has prolly been lots of em in the past. Just curios to see the opinion's of decent players on this.

 

[Deyrax]

Ideal character ? What is that ?

 

[Espio]

CHAMELEON

;_;

 

[Pakman]

It's less to do with the amount of strings and specials and more to do with how effective they are. Characters tend to be designed on the basic principles of grappler, zoner, rushdown (these tend to be most common archetypes in fighting game at least but you can have hybrids and variations) and even on a simpler scale of risk vs reward (High vs high. Low vs low. High vs low. Low vs high)

Technically speaking, you could have a character with one really safe and high damaging special move (full screen projectile for example) and one really safe, high damaging string (for example sake: 1, 2, 3 - all plus on block). But that's kinda boring in terms of character design....and borderline broken too XD

I guess if you really wanted to quantify it, at least 2 special moves is a fair starting point (although 3 onwards seems to be the norm in most FGs). Strings depends really on how the character is designed to get damage, which is a whole science in and of it self, so it's too difficult to really pin point. From the FGs I've played, every character has at least one basic string in terms of universal pressure - but it really depends on a number of factors (character design, game design, frame data etc)

If you're just talking Frankenstein-like monsters though:
2 specials (Fully invincible AA and full screen Projectile, both plus on block)
1 million strings (everything plus on block, fully invincible)

 

[Wigy]

I meant like from other characters..

For example.. like classic reptile has smokes chain and shit.

 

[Invincibeast]

5 Strings:

Liu Kang 2,1,3
Liu Kang b3,1,2
Smoke b2,3
Johnny Cage f3,3
Sub-Z 2,2,4

5 Specials:

Nomad Dash
Spirit Charge
Smoke Bomb
Ice Clone
Kano Knives


This character would be too fucked up... lol

 

[Wigy]

I'll do mine:

Small hitbox character:

Kabals floorblade
Shangs Floor Missles
Nomad Dash
Mileena's Teleport
Lao spin

Normals

JC's F3 string
kabals F4
kung laos 21
kenshis f3 b2
jax's 1

 

[Wigy]

Also i would want CSZ's dash.

 

[Justice]

Just give Sonya instant air rings with the Kabal input shortcut. That is all.

 

[OutworldKeith]

My ideal character would be Liu Kang with CSZ's ice parry frame data.

 

[Spletty]

Liu b312
Sektor b34
Jc f33b3
Quan 212
Liu st. 1


Ice clone
Iagb
Nomad dash cancellable
Rune
Kenshi shoulder

 

[PPJ]

sektor with armor, leg lift cancels, a mid jab, and block advantage on a few normals

Ok on topic.. sorta. I'm gonna make a broken normal moveset that has at most 6 strings following each input (not counting the input itself) but I'll keep the specials at 5, not including a stance (which makes it 6 technically) Also since I'm cheap, air-only specials only count as 1/2.

Normals:
Jax 1, Noob 12, Sektor 122, Rain 12f4, Cage 132, Sindel 11b24, Kabal 11b43

Kitana 2, Sindel 21, Liu 213, Smoke 214, Cyrax 212, Reptile 2f31+2, Baraka 221+2

Rain 3, CSZ 33 & 34, Cyrax 334, Ermac 312, Reptile 321, Sonya 314

Rain 4 & 43b4, Sindel 44u3, Jade 4f3, Mileena 42

Scorpion d1, Sonya uppercut, Sub d4, Shang d3, Ermac sweep

Kano b1, Baraka b11, Kano b112, Skarlet b11f4, Noob b1214, Smoke b14

Smoke b2, Freddy b24, NWolf b221, Rain b23 & b21+2, Sektor b21, Stryker b2f2

Liu b3, Quan b31+2, Sektor b34, Raiden b312, Jade b32

Quan f1, Kano f12 & f11, Quan f121+2, Sindel f124, Liu f121

Sektor f2, Kenshi f22b2 & f22b1, Raiden f24 & f231+2, Kitana f2b1

Cage f3 & f33 & f33b3 & f32, Sheeva f3b1, NWolf f312

Shang f4, Freddy f43, Shang f434, Freddy f421, Sektor f44

Sektor u3-4 & 34 (doesn't count as stance), Mileena u4

Noob's throws

Specials: 5 + 1 "stance"
Sektor tele, Noob portals, Kano knives, Ermac airblast, CSZ Divekick, Stryker roll toss
Stance: Sindel's levitate

Character type: retarded ass poke game with launchers out of almost every input and specials that prioritize aerial and space control. Only real downside is no broken armored move.

 

[CrazyBread]

Give Kitana armor on her cutter and she will be top 3!

 

[Mothmonsterman0]

CHAMELEON

;_;

he would rape more like this though =)

 

[McNasty]

Specials: kung lao spin, kabal nomad dash, kabal gas blast, cyrax bombs, kenshi spirit charge

Strings: kung lao chained fist(2121212), cyrax b1 1212, cage f33b3, reptile 2f3 1+2, kabal b121

Normals: kabal st.2, sonya d4, jax st.1, shang d3, quan chi d2, kitana d1, stryker st.4, maybe jades standing 3?

Oh and either quan or noobs win pose.

 

[PPJ]

I edited my original post, look how much of a douche I am

 

[Laos_boy]

Sonya 112
Skarlet f2121+2
Kitana 212
Sektor 12b1
skarlets f43

Skartlets dagger and ex dagger
Kitanas fans
Bf2
sheevas grab n punch
Jade glow

 

[Rokinlobster]

Sektors b34
Cyrax 334
Skarlets f212 1+2
Sub Zeros 222
And what ever scorpions flaming backflip kick is.

Specials:
Cyrax net
Sub zero freeze
Sonya kiss
Kabal dash
Sindel scream.

 

[STRYKIE]

Johnny Cage's 132
Baraka's U4
Sektor's D1
Scorpion's D3
Stryker's 114

Specials:

Sub-Zero's ground freeze
Quan Chi's skeletal boost
Johnny Cage's fireballs
Kung Lao's Teleport 4
Mileena's leaping neckbite

#YOLO

 

[Wigy]

Johnny Cage's 132
Baraka's U4
Sektor's D1
Scorpion's D3
Stryker's 114

Specials:

Sub-Zero's ground freeze
Quan Chi's skeletal boost
Johnny Cage's fireballs
Kung Lao's Teleport 4
Mileena's leaping Sai

#YOLO

Top5

 

[Axel_Redd]

hmm....

Nomad dash (both ex and normal
Lao Spin
Golden Fleece Parry
Raiden Vanilla Teleport
Lao Dive Kick (or Sonya's)
Gas Blasts (preferably IAGB)
Groundsaw's
Freddy Ground claws
Cyrax Command Grab
Hook Slam

Strings:
cages 11f1 and f33b3 strings
Lao's 21212 (imagine being able to NDC that shit? lmao!)
smokes B23
Liu Kangs B312
Kitana's f21

 

[Peckapowa]

5 strings
barakas 22 1+2
cage f33
kung lao 21
liu kang b312
smoke b23

5 specials (including enhanced
kabal iagb
freddys spikes
kenshi shoulder
raiden teleport
kabal dash(cancellable)

i think i win.

 

[miloPKL]

Kabal

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

I want sonya d4, cages fwd33b3 string, military stance, cartwheel, and iagb. That would be fun. LOL fwd33b3msf1 cartwheel meterbuilding.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Strings/Normals:

Cage F33B3
Kung Lao 21212
Liu Kang B312
Smoke B23
Cyrax command grab
Sonyas D4
Cyber Subs d3
6f d1
Cyrax B2
and a 200 frame uppercut... for balance.

Specials:

Kung Lao divekick
Kenshi shoulder charge
Nutpunch
Cyrax bombs
Smoke bomb


Rediculous mobility, safe 5050s that lead to resets because of the nutpunch. Nut punch & cyrax bombs for infinites.
21212 string for a 7f standing normal.

Command grab safe jump for B23 and B312 mixup, as well as F33 Ex Shoulder.
Smoke bombs for resets, mixed in with shoulders and divekicks.

I think this character would be a bit rediculous.