How To Punish Homelander - Unsafe Moves, Duckable Highs & Armorable Gaps

[Shenles]

Video:

b142 high (but jails on block)
f12 high (but jails on block)
d1 -8
212 high (but jails on block)
b22 1+3 high throw

d3 -10
b4 -9
f4 -12
d4 -11

bf1 -25 high projectile
ex is -6 still high

db1 parry works on "punches" they mean this literally, doesn't matter jump in, overhead or low, doesn't matter if it's 1, 2, 3 or 4
have to test every move case by case as some moves are ambiguous on if they are parryable (sub slide is parryable, omniman bf4 is not)

bf2
1 -30
2 NA (high throw)
3 -19
4 +4 (-6 on fblock, also a high)

all buttons off bf2 air are punishable on block (except 4 which appears to be plus) and can't be special cancelled either

by comparison buttons out of flight (up+l2) all have significantly better frame data, spamming 4 in flight while enemy is cornered is a gapless block infinite

db2 -28
bf3 -28 (ex is -24)
db3 (anti air laser)
bdf4 +3 (-7 on fblock)

air db4 -28
can be held, can move

fatal -35 (can be done in the air as well)

NO GAPS IN STRINGS EXCEPT b22 * 1+3

 

[Trustful_Whale]

Nice work as always, Shenles.

 

[kabelfritz]

is there any way to make air bf2 1 unpunishable? people get away a lot with mashing d1 afterwards online even though it should be -15?

 

[wsj515]

is there any way to make air bf2 1 unpunishable? people get away a lot with mashing d1 afterwards online even though it should be -15?

This is currently a bug(?) where they can cancel bf2 1 on block into d1, even though they are negative.

 

[kabelfritz]

This is currently a bug(?) where they can cancel bf2 1 on block into d1, even though they are negative.

thanks, that really felt wrong

 

[ticklebandit!]

Uh, pretty much the only way I’m able to punish home lander is if they miss space the dive punch. Or if I read a tick throw. Otherwise yeah, if you play a char that relies on giant punishes this MU is not fun lol. Homelanders can just toss out the occasional laser and whooosh all day.

 

[kabelfritz]

Uh, pretty much the only way I’m able to punish home lander is if they miss space the dive punch. Or if I read a tick throw. Otherwise yeah, if you play a char that relies on giant punishes this MU is not fun lol. Homelanders can just toss out the occasional laser and whooosh all day.

you get to double dash after laser though, can be enough to punish the second if he does another one. but this char is still pretty busted imo. its like hes in the wrong game.

 

[Felipe_Gewehr]

Mileena can ballroll punish homelander if he does low laser into flight. I'm guessing other chars with fast launchers can as well.