Menu
By:
Filters
What's new

How strictly should TO's enforce tournament rules? And Jim's version of events from Frosty Faustings

rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
G4S Claude VonStroke said:
This is the first time I'm hearing that you have to button check with your intended character. I've never heard of that in any game and it would be unfair to expect someone outside of GGA to automatically know that rule, if it even was a rule at FF.
Click to expand...
No one's saying he had to do that, just that it might be something we should do to prevent people from picking better stages. The problem they're talking about is with backing out of character select to reset the stages.
 
Big Pampering

Big Pampering

Master
I dont see the problem here, he got the game because PL paused. I'm sorry, but it is kind of his own problem for losing your ''momentum'' that easily, which I find kind of weird because you didn't even have the life lead. I understand that is is not something Pl should have done but he lost a game for it and the events turned out to be in jims favor, it could have easily been 2-0 instead of 2-1.

PL shouldnt have pressed pause and he got his penalty. The TO was being unprofessional so he was to blame for this situation, anyone saying otherwise either has never been to a tournament before or just wants to trash PL.
 
Dizzy

Dizzy

False Information Police Officer
Elder God
NetherRealm Studios
G4S Claude VonStroke said:
As far as pausing goes.. I was playing KI at Red bank saturday and my buttons were messed up because I didn't do a button check. Instead of pausing I just played it out and then lost, switched my buttons for the next match and played on. Thawas my fault for not button checking and it is what it is. No one had to go to a TO, I fucked up and I lost. Is Jim saying PL didn't want to take the loss?
Click to expand...
were you player 2? we found out that if you do a button check and player 2 has non default controls, exiting to main menu resets controls. So you essentially cannot button check in KI lol
 
Big Pampering

Big Pampering

Master
look at it like this, lets say it was tom brady vs marvaz in top 8. Marvaz pauses the game and tom brady calls a TO over and asks him what they should do. The TO says, tom you get to decide what is going to happen. Marvaz(who btw likes to threaten people) starts to give tom brady this crazy as look as if he is on some Terry crews shit and whispers I'm gonna abuse you like I abuse my dog if you take the game.... People don't realise the importance of rules and TO's at tournaments.
 
Saboteur-6

Saboteur-6

Filthy Casual
TheTruth4591 said:
His USB cable came unplugged.
Click to expand...
Multiple layers to it then. My guess is that Glass Sword was getting pissed at 16bit yelling pretty biased commentary (not to mention losing the match) so when the opportunity of an accidental "minor penalty" occurred Glass Sword wasn't feeling too magnanimous.
 
Saboteur-6

Saboteur-6

Filthy Casual
Vagrant said:
Chi players at a chi tourney against a guy who had talked a little bit of playful shit before the event.

Hardly call this bias and more "cause and effect"
Click to expand...
Fair enough all I have to go by is the 5 minute vid. I have no idea what went down before and leading up to. Just saying Glass Sword's reactions seemed to be in response to 16bit.
 
NurzBenny

NurzBenny

Old Member
PL's heroic comeback from an 0-1 deficit in the face of adversity due to circumstances outside of his control isn't being brought up enough in this thread. :rolleyes:
 
Jim

Jim

Emperor of the Moon
PerfectMindGame said:
I dont see the problem here, he got the game because PL paused. I'm sorry, but it is kind of his own problem for losing your ''momentum'' that easily, which I find kind of weird because you didn't even have the life lead. I understand that is is not something Pl should have done but he lost a game for it and the events turned out to be in jims favor, it could have easily been 2-0 instead of 2-1.

PL shouldnt have pressed pause and he got his penalty. The TO was being unprofessional so he was to blame for this situation, anyone saying otherwise either has never been to a tournament before or just wants to trash PL.
Click to expand...
I agree it is my fault for being taken out mentally. I even said that in an earlier post. I'll use this as one more lesson to grow as a player. Thankfully it seems people are largely in agreement on this that going forward it should just always be the TO that makes the call. I still feel like it should be strictly enforced but at the very least the TO decides if it is a play it out vs take it situation unless the other player is screaming "I'll take it!"

Hopefully this will lead to us having a universal set of rules for this game and TOs at all tournaments being the bad guy in these situations.
 
Krayzie

Krayzie

Co-founder
Administrator
Founder
TakeAChance said:
Perfect Legend

In a game like Injustice, not picking your main character for a button check can give you an unfair advantage since stage selection is so important. Now, while you cannot be held at fault in this situation since there has been no clear rule against it, in the future I would say we as a community must agree that IF you button check, you both must do so with your intended character.

If not, questions like this will always be raised in regards to buttons checks and backing out.

To say it is a time issue is rediculous. We all have our mains selection on that screen down to muscle memory. It takes literally 1-2 seconds for us all to pick our character....you are no exception. It's not about holding hands, and as I said, in this case you did nothing technically wrong...but it is something this community can change for the future.

GGA 16 Bit AK Pig Of The Hut Krayzie

Perhaps this rule should be enacted across all scenes?
Click to expand...
That's not true.

EGP Wonder_Chef doesn't know who he is going to use for a match until 0.1 seconds before they start.

Then he regrets his decision after the match.
 
Big Pampering

Big Pampering

Master
Jim said:
I agree it is my fault for being taken out mentally. I even said that in an earlier post. I'll use this as one more lesson to grow as a player. Thankfully it seems people are largely in agreement on this that going forward it should just always be the TO that makes the call. I still feel like it should be strictly enforced but at the very least the TO decides if it is a play it out vs take it situation unless the other player is screaming "I'll take it!"

Hopefully this will lead to us having a universal set of rules for this game and TOs at all tournaments being the bad guy in these situations.
Click to expand...
I do understand that it sucks that this happened, because you were satisfied with your performance in the first match. It kinda feels bad to take the match in this manner whether you had the lifelead or not. It just means you are a nice person;)
 
coolwhip

coolwhip

Master
PerfectMindGame said:
I dont see the problem here, he got the game because PL paused. I'm sorry, but it is kind of his own problem for losing your ''momentum'' that easily, which I find kind of weird because you didn't even have the life lead. I understand that is is not something Pl should have done but he lost a game for it and the events turned out to be in jims favor, it could have easily been 2-0 instead of 2-1.
Click to expand...
Everyone knows how much I love GGA, but yeah, the above is spot on.

While I understand that Jim is raising a bigger picture question with regards to who should make that call -- and it's a good point -- it's pretty obvious that the huge context and back-story provided is intended to focus on his specific example with PL. The "I'm not saying I would have won but..." part is besides the point, IMO. I have nothing but respect for Jim and he seems to be the nicest guy in the world, but as I said, this has been a bit overblown.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.