Harley's Trait - In-depth look and match-up guide.

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

From the range at which it lands.. Any of your typical B'n'B combos will work.. Can either look at it as a jump in A2A or a ground bounce from a F3.. That's how I view it..

so ts1 b3 ect?

 

[xWEBSx]

so ts1 b3 ect?

Lil too high for outright TS.. Would go JI1/2/3, follow up, B3, follow up, timed 2,U3 relaunch follow up.. Etc..

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

Lil too high for outright TS.. Would go JI1/2/3, follow up, B3, follow up, timed 2,U3 relaunch follow up.. Etc..

Wait what's follow up and U3?

 

[cpmd4]

TS~1 can hit if its delayed but when it hits off a ground bounce (or an opponent in the air) it will knock your opponent down and away preventing a b3 from connecting. So go with what WEBS said.

 

[cpmd4]

Wait what's follow up and U3?

A string like 1,1,2 would be a good follow-up. b2,2 as a follow-up is unclashable as well.

The 2,U3 string launches an opponent and sets up a b3. It's a good replacement for TS~1. (EDIT: However I'm not sure if you can b3 after 2,U3 in the same cases as TS~1 that I mentioned in my other post. Also the b3 might have to be MB'd)

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

A string like 1,1,2 would be a good follow-up. b2,2 as a follow-up is unclashable as well.

The 2,U3 string launches an opponent and sets up a b3. It's a good replacement for TS~1. (EDIT: However I'm not sure if you can b3 after 2,U3 in the same cases as TS~1 that I mentioned in my other post. Also the b3 might have to be MB'd)

U3? is?

 

[cpmd4]

U3? is?

It means up 3. On xbox that would be holding up on the stick/d-pad and pressing A. After a 2 (Y) you can use this motion to complete the 2,U3 string. U3 by itself will make you jump and use Harley's stomp air attack, so its only used after a 2 for Harley.

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

It means up 3. On xbox that would be holding up on the stick/d-pad and pressing A. After a 2 (Y) you can use this motion to complete the 2,U3 string. U3 by itself will make you jump and use Harley's stomp air attack, so its only used after a 2 for Harley.

You can land B3 after J3?

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

B3 is really easy to land after 2U3, but is there ever any reason to use 2U3 over B22 as a starter? it's unsafe while b22 isn't, and i think it does less damage.

Ok so after TNT hits what I'm understanding is JI3,B22,B3,112,B22,B3? So wtf this is an infinite? What the hell is going on lol.
Edit:I'm taking what all 3 of you said into account. Follow ups being B22 ect. and this is a version of what XWEBSX said could be done after TNT hits.

 

[testyourpatience]

after TNT, i just do jump 2, 112 either cupcake or silly slide. i'm sure there are better followups, though.

 

[cpmd4]

B3 is really easy to land after 2U3, but is there ever any reason to use 2U3 over B22 as a starter? it's unsafe while b22 isn't, and i think it does less damage.

If that is in response to me, I only meant it's a good replacement for TS~1 on a juggled opponent. Probably didn't explain myself very well.

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

after TNT, i just do jump 2, 112 either cupcake or silly slide. i'm sure there are better followups, though.

I heard of someone getting a 100% or so combo though after TNT hit, something like that earlier in this thread. Or ni a different combo thread.

 

[cpmd4]

Ok so after TNT hits what I'm understanding is JI3,B22,B3,112,B22,B3? So wtf this is an infinite? What the hell is going on lol.
Edit:I'm taking what all 3 of you said into account. Follow ups being B22 ect. and this is a version of what XWEBSX said could be done after TNT hits.

No, sorry. You can use any of these options. Like you can J2 then 1,1,2 OR you can b3 then j,2 then j,2 etc. OR you can 2,U3 > b3 > etc.

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

No, sorry. You can use any of these options. Like you can J2 then 1,1,2 OR you can b3 then j,2 then j,2 etc. OR you can 2,U3 > b3 > etc.

So TNT,B22,B3,JI3,112?

 

[cpmd4]

ah that's what i thought, but using 2U3 on an already launched opponent won't launch them as much, will it?

Yeah, I realized that might be the case and hence the edit. Maybe I should just delete the post in case I spread misinformation... XD

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

Yeah, I realized that might be the case and hence the edit. Maybe I should just delete the post in case I spread misinformation... XD

You can edit it ahha.

 

[cpmd4]

So TNT,B22,B3,JI3,112?

I would personally j2 > b2,2 if I want unclashable. You can't link a b3 after b2,2 so it ends there unless you've got 4 bars for a super, then you can go j2 > b2,2 > Super.

If they've already clashed or I don't fear them clashing I would do j2 > 1,1,2 > Cupcake Bomb.

 

[testyourpatience]

Yeah, I realized that might be the case and hence the edit. Maybe I should just delete the post in case I spread misinformation... XD

i'll probably do the same. there was a thread that mentioned combos after f3, so they can be used with a tnt starter.

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

I would personally j2 > b2,2 if I want unclashable. You can't link a b3 after b2,2 so it ends there unless you've got 4 bars for a super, then you can go j2 > b2,2 > Super.

If they've already clashed or I don't fear them clashing I would do j2 > 1,1,2 > Cupcake Bomb.

What about J3,112,Cupcake. Also do you know the best follow up after super? I've seen a few but I want to know the current best XD.

 

[cpmd4]

Ok so after TNT hits what I'm understanding is JI3,B22,B3,112,B22,B3? So wtf this is an infinite? What the hell is going on lol.
Edit:I'm taking what all 3 of you said into account. Follow ups being B22 ect. and this is a version of what XWEBSX said could be done after TNT hits.

Ah! I see where your confusion lies. WEBS meant something like

After TNT:

• JI1/2/3, follow up
• B3, follow up,
• timed 2,U3 relaunch follow up..
• Etc..

Not a single combo, he was giving multiple combos.

 

[testyourpatience]

What about J3,112,Cupcake. Also do you know the best follow up after super? I've seen a few but I want to know the current best XD.

they probably mention it in the combo guide, but nobody's updating the first post and there's 11 pages in that thread >.<

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

Ah! I see where your confusion lies. WEBS meant something like

After TNT:

• JI1/2/3, follow up
• B3, follow up,
• timed 2,U3 relaunch follow up..
• Etc..

Not a single combo, he was giving multiple combos.

Well that helps A LOT! Phew, I felt like a complete noob, I was so fuckin confused......I was like what the hell?

 

[cpmd4]

What about J3,112,Cupcake. Also do you know the best follow up after super? I've seen a few but I want to know the current best XD.

J3 > 1,1,2 > Cupcake is actually better, yes, use that.

I'm not sure what the best is. I use J3 > Air Gunshots myself. B1,2 > Play Doctor leaves the opponent standing so they can't wake-up attack, but only works in the corner. Mid screen you can try 3 > Play Doctor replaces that. I'm no expert, maybe someone else will chime in.

However just note that any of these after super are clashable (except B2,2 but I'm not sure if that can hit after super) and since you're out of meter after super you can't contest a clash.

 

[k1nG_Qu1nN]

J3 > 1,1,2 > Cupcake is actually better, yes, use that.

I'm not sure what the best is. I use J3 > Air Gunshots myself. B1,2 > Play Doctor leaves the opponent standing so they can't wake-up attack, but only works in the corner. Mid screen you can try 3 > Play Doctor replaces that. I'm no expert, maybe someone else will chime in.

However just note that any of these after super are clashable (except B2,2 but I'm not sure if that can hit after super) and since you're out of meter after super you can't contest a clash.

Yes the computers always usually clash after I combo out of super which just makes me rage so hard.

 

[cpmd4]

Updated for 1.05 changes.

TL DR: f2,3 xx 4 is only punishable by Superman with a tech roll and wake-up Super, and only if Harley gets a bomb. He still takes 15% damage so if he's using Super with low health to try to end your life bar, you could just end up killing him with it.

I've added some stuff about 1,1,2 xx 4, since it's easier to land on a knocked-up opponent and leaves them the perfect distance from Harley's bomb trait. The bomb sometimes whiffs on floating characters when in different stances, so that's a minor problem.