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TYRANTS 2ND PLACE AT NEC SHOULD GO TO SHOW HOW GOOD HE IS GETTING THERE WITH A NOTHING MORE THAN ALRIGHT CHARACTER
to play devils advocate i imagine NRS decided to make it hard to land the hit because Grundy does half life on a touch. But then that's not even fair because fucking bane exists and he does stupid damage with much better options to open you up with. I know why the noose'd zombie roars- give him a string out of 2
- make his sweep plus on block or faster startup
- improve d2's hitbox
- change his WC into a stance that you can cancel into normals instead of db cancel
- change his WCC so you back dash, dash, or jump to cancel
- change his WC so he can cancel earlier
- decrease Cleaver Spin's start up and recovery
I mean he obviously doesn't need all of this but some would definitely make him less risky. I'm still new to this game but it feels like he struggles way too much to get that hit. And against the more popular characters it feels like it's near impossible. It's like I can only start consistently winning if I'm playing a very long set so I have more time to pick up on some player habits.
Bane's damage used to be offset by the cooldown on the venom used to get that damage.to play devils advocate i imagine NRS decided to make it hard to land the hit because Grundy does half life on a touch. But then that's not even fair because fucking bane exists and he does stupid damage with much better options to open you up with. I know why the noose'd zombie roars
"used" to be that way! If they're going to buff bane and all these characters so they do hella damage with neglible drawbacks then Grundy should've gotten something stupid too dammit now I'm emo lolBane's damage used to be offset by the cooldown on the venom used to get that damage.
yes because grundy is just as bad as joker..TYRANTS 2ND PLACE AT NEC SHOULD GO TO SHOW HOW GOOD HE IS GETTING THERE WITH A NOTHING MORE THAN ALRIGHT CHARACTER
SMART F@#$%&* GUY RIGHT HERE!!!!!Im picking up MMH and Superman.
Grundy isn't as bad as Joker, but the dream is dead for Grundy now. Good character early on in the game but NRS had to give everyone throw immune strings so when Grundy gets in close he has to hold dat upclose where he is supposed to dominate by game design. I myself will probably just drop Grundy for Zod :/. Tis a shameyes because grundy is just as bad as joker..
you don't have to yell, jeez.GRUNDY IS AN ASS CHARACTER AND IF YOU TELL ME ANYTHING THAT GRUNDY HAS I CAN TELL YOU A COUNTER TO IT. ME AND TYRANT WENT MONTHS FIGURING NEW SHIT OUT AND WAYS TO DEAL WITH THINGS BUT IN THE END HE JUST GETS FUCKED AS A CHARACTER. ASIDE FROM LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYTHING BEING THROW INVUNERABLE. LITERALLY EVERY SITUATION GRUNDY PUTS YOU IN THERES A BETTER OPTION FOR YOU TO MAKE . PEOPLE GET HIT WITH A COUPLE 50% COMBOS AND DONT SEE THE CHARACTERS PROBLEMS. IF YOUR PLAYING GRUNDY FOR ANYTHING BUT FUN ITS A JOKE.
Give it another year; Grundy will eventually drop to bottom tier while Joker rises.yes because grundy is just as bad as joker..
If someone at NRS reads this, does another "across the board" change that indirectly nerfs Joker/I lose the very short, but incredibly useful, throw immunity on BF3, you will be punished...- Remove throw immune from everything except MB moves
- Grundy Trait Unclashable again
Done.
I honestly hate that damn podcast lol.
IDK I'm pretty scrubby. Have you SEEN me mash teleport?I think Grundy is really good. I know I'm a scrub in comparison to wonder chef or Tyrant or Wound or whoever but I've played Grundy heavily since launch and I think he's very good.
Well you've basically answered answered yourself already lol. But I do think Grundy needs something more. I really think making WC a stance and allowing to to cancel out of it earlier would improve his options so you can go into other moves faster. It just seems silly to have an arguably "brain-dead" universal counter to his "best" way to approach. However, it's not like we're babies that always need patches for everything. We can work with what we've got if we have the right mindset (using 2, sweep, d2, MB trait, and Grave Rot more in neutral game I guess) and make the best out every hit we get (going for damage enders, resets, or which trait followup to use depending on match-ups) even if we don't get many.to play devils advocate i imagine NRS decided to make it hard to land the hit because Grundy does half life on a touch. But then that's not even fair because fucking bane exists and he does stupid damage with much better options to open you up with. I know why the noose'd zombie roars
I've also been known to mash teleport, but I mash it online as opposed to off, so I'll defer to you=[
IDK I'm pretty scrubby. Have you SEEN me mash teleport?
I can say 100% seriously that "CANT STOP GRUNDY" is my favorite quote in the gameyou're all a bunch of emos
All I ever hear from you in the podcast is grundy is a really good character bcuz 80% combos and hes top tier. Can you just play him and show me what im doing wrong? Like seriously. Play him in every MU and then come talk to me.=[
IDK I'm pretty scrubby. Have you SEEN me mash teleport?
I do play him and he's obviously super strong, you didn't get 2nd at NEC through a fluke.All I ever hear from you in the podcast is grundy is a really good character bcuz 80% combos and hes top tier. Can you just play him and show me what im doing wrong? Like seriously. Play him in every MU and then come talk to me.
All due respect to you as a player and the fact that I admire you using Grundy for your troublesome matchups, but Aquaman's B12 isn't throw immune. Most of his specials aside from his water shield are throw immune, so if I cancel B12 into scoop, that's when the throw immunity kicks in, since scoop is throw immune. B12 in itself has no throw immunity frames which I'm almost positive on.AM B12 is throw immune..the list goes on
All due respect to you as a player and the fact that I admire you using Grundy for your troublesome matchups, but Aquaman's B12 isn't throw immune. Most of his specials aside from his water shield are throw immune, so if I cancel B12 into scoop, that's when the throw immunity kicks in, since scoop is throw immune. B12 in itself has no throw immunity frames which I'm almost positive on.AM B12 is throw immune..the list goes on
"Can we stop pretending grundy isnt broken?" "The only matches tyrant lost he wasnt using grundy" -EGP WonderChef 2013I do play him and he's obviously super strong, you didn't get 2nd at NEC through a fluke.
You just have to have counterpicks for a few characters. (Like Dick the dick.)
I mean look at AE, I think it's widely accepted that Zangief is really good and that Snake Eyez is seriously godlike, but he still picks Oni when someone uses Sagat on him. That doesn't make Zangief a shitty character, that just means that he's a powerful character with some holes that need to be covered, same as Grundy.