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I only know of a 1 % difference and that's if you do a jump in punch b2 exOHDP you get 40% as opposed to 39%. But yeah my preference is meter.
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I only know of a 1 % difference and that's if you do a jump in punch b2 exOHDP you get 40% as opposed to 39%. But yeah my preference is meter.
There is no way you've mained jax and not done these things lol
Fuck and here I am thinking I'm some kind new age Jax savant who is ahead of his time. What other things do you guys use for baits and maybe footsies...not that I need your advice or anything.
Oh no trust me a great player and the only one to actually help me with jax taught me to use f212 as a poke bait for ex ODDP and to hold forward to consistently hit 11f212 and to always use 123 for punishing..but you wouldn't know him he disappeared off psn for a while now I hear he chills with Ermac and Kotal nowTrust me. Ive played this Kingshootahz guy and he needs all the advice he can get.
Lmfao!!! Yea I left Khaotic so I'm on a new psn now. I forgot to add you when I made the switch. You can add me if you like, its listed below my name.Oh no trust me a great player and the only one to actually help me with jax taught me to use f212 as a poke bait for ex ODDP and to hold forward to consistently hit 11f212 and to always use 123 for punishing..but you wouldn't know him he disappeared off psn for a while now I hear he chills with Ermac and Kotal now
Oh I was talking about someone else but sure I'll add you
Anything -4 or similar you shouldn't just hold that everytime or your opponent just gets to go into anything. Poking directly after will beat out everything 11 frames or more, which is pretty much everything except pokes, highs, and punishable specials. You don't have to poke everytime, your opponent can armor through it or beat you with a poke of his own, or block your poke, but you gotta make him respect it, mix in backdashes and blocking and don't make it easy for your opponent, depends on the match up obviously but -4 isn't enough to leave you without options and I think a big part of playing characters with options only slightly negative, is learning to thrive in the meta you create with it. Just my opinion.
It's about making reads. I'm not super familiar with Jax's cancels, but for example with Hellfire, back dashing lets me punish Kung Lao's armor with JiP into F4 for significantly more damage than a 214 punish after blocking. It also leaves me in a better place than blocking right in their face generally, and doesn't leave me open to reversal throws or counter pressure or whatever. I don't know how his translates to Jax's gameplay, and of course it's MU dependant, but not something you should discount.
Thanks for the reply and and great post. F3 cancel is -864 (I know you want the exact but I know you are NEVER supposed to use that unless you are mid combo) and f3 damage is the following:
These are more tricks than anything but have their uses,Fuck and here I am thinking I'm some kind new age Jax savant who is ahead of his time. What other things do you guys use for baits and maybe footsies...not that I need your advice or anything.
What is the b2 chip check set up? I've probably done it just didn't know it was meaty.
Ok I've memorized this..now delete it before other people see it.
I've seen Tyrant do combo starter into EX GG and instead of continuing the combo, doing a mid-timing b2. For example, f21 xx LAW RC 123 xx OH DP, d1, 11, b34 xx EX GG, 124 xx EX GG into a mid-length hold on b2 for meaty. Depending upon the number of GGS and timing, I've seen him land the full length meaty b2 on block into frame advantage. Don't remember the two matches that I've seen him run that but he did it on YOMI videos a couple of times and it came in handy for the time that he was using it. I'll try to find the matches and post them.
I'm have to implement all of that. Anything to keep that ass guessing because I've had some problems with people refusing to not push a button here lately. My "feels" are telling me to let stuff rip but my mind tells me to apply the brakes. It's a tough balance with Jax because he is pretty damn safe but you can't choose to stay safe the entire match and win, especially against someone that doesn't know when to push a button. Most people I can't get to that next meta level because they insist on operating on the first, therefore, Jax gets no bites from baits. I've yet to have LAW cancel into block work because they won't poke there and because I know my own safety, I don't continue pressure. I need to let the "feels" out more. Or just run Pumped Up against those opponents and let shit rip.
Some people just suck at the game and freeze when they see a cancel. Especially against Jax. Lol its not like he's plus. Just disrespect them until they do something about it.
Yea that shit is too dirty