Tech Gain Frame Advantage Midscreen off of Ground Spark

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

End any airborne combo in 223 dash slight pause, ground spark. becomes meaty and nets atleast +3 or 4.

If the opponent tech rolls and wakes up you will recover from the dash with enough time to block and change your gameplan. There's a set up in the corner as well that ends in 113 for the HKD.

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@Braindead

@the rest of you guys, I'm on mobile so i can't look up correct spelling of your names..

 

[BigMilk]

This is really interesting but I do want to test vs quicker wakeups to determine exactly how much advantage we are at.

 

[Dirtylova]

Dirty likey

 

[gpmoney]

@HeroesNZ @AK Gookus @Shaazzyam @Jeremy KO @FOREVER EL1TE @RM Chongo @TheBoyBlunder hmmm I feel like im missing someone

 

[DevilMaySpy]

@HeroesNZ @AK Gookus @Shaazzyam @Jeremy KO @FOREVER EL1TE @RM Chongo @TheBoyBlunder hmmm I feel like im missing someone

@ICED_MOON22

 

[Jeremy KO]

This tech is so cute i could kiss it

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

me gusta.

have you tried this with cancel into ground pound?

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

me gusta.

have you tried this with cancel into ground pound?

Ground pound is a seismo which means it takes the opponent relative to their position during the start up frames, so the possibility of a meaty attack is much less, but its worth a try.

The reason this works is because ground spark travels across the screen and nightwing will recover at the same time regardless of hit or block. If you've ever noticed, the block advantage increases on ground spark the further away you are from your opponent. hence why ground spark stance cancel ground pound works fullscreen but not midscreen.

 

[OG Mannimal]

For anyone else struggling with the link, delete the ?#/ then go ahead. When I clicked it, I was sent to the YouTube homepage.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

For anyone else struggling with the link, delete the ?#/ then go ahead. When I clicked it, I was sent to the YouTube homepage.

Thanks dude. Took it out the link. the video is now in the OP

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

The corner combo everyone is talking about is the one that ends in 113, that ground spark is meaty and yields +1 or +2 frames..

 

[Braindead]

I didn't get an alert that I was tagged here...
Anyway this looks good. Does it beat the wakeups if they don't tech roll?

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I didn't get an alert that I was tagged here...
Anyway this looks good. Does it beat the wakeups if they don't tech roll?

No it doesn't, but the splat makes it hard to wake up, normally they will tech roll if they plan to wake up. Regardless, if they wake up, then more than likely they will always wake up and other oki options are available. As for the 113 set up in the corner, the quick rise is extremely fast. therefore the window to wake up is smaller.

@TheBoyBlunder
If u do the midscreen set up ending in 223 and it corner carries, you can set up a meaty ground pound (staff). This will yield atleast +9. The frame advantage becomes so high that ground pound into stand 1 (staff) becomes a true block string. Midscreen ground pound doesn't yield any extra frame advantage.

 

[macro]

I'm sorry but this thread needs to be bumped.

 

[gpmoney]

@macro I forgot this tech existed ;0 gonna add this to my corner game

 

[gpmoney]

@EMPEROR PRYCE did you ever make a corner combo for this?

 

[macro]

@EMPEROR PRYCE did you ever make a corner combo for this?

Ya he did B2 D12 112 EF 113 GS
it's super good tech

 

[REDRUM]

In b4 someone says "I knew about this already" ....

Good stuff here

 

[macro]

Ya it was kind of funny because i saw this only had like 420 views and i was like awwwwwwwwwwwwww hell NO!
Just like when this happened.

 

[gpmoney]

Ya he did B2 D12 112 EF 113 GS
it's super good tech

thanks, at work so I couldn't watch the vid

 

[macro]

thanks, at work so I couldn't watch the vid

That part wasn't in the video.
But anytime bro.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

So the corner version doesnt frame trap the same way the midscreen does. The corner one is based on gravity scaling. the more the gravity is racked up. the faster the quick stand is. Basically u don't want them waking up too fast or else the spark won't be meaty. There's plenty of corner combos u can use to achieve so be sure to test it out yourselves!!

 

[MidTierHarley]

God damn there are sooo many Nightwing players. lol