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[4x4lo8o]

After jip or after a d4 hits are the times where it's most guaranteed. After d3 or d1 hits is good too if they don't poke back or interrupt you with something else. Basically, any time you think they will hold block.

I don't like to use it after d4. d4 on hit gives you enough advantage that you get a free jump in, a free throw attempt, or you can use b312 and if they try to press anything they get hit. If you think they're going to block you're better off going for the throw or taking your jump in and if you think you're going to hit them f23 isn't really the string you want to use.

After jips it's alright, but after jip you can go for 22 which has all the same advantages as f23, plus it links into normal shocker so you don't have to use meter and you end the string with the low.

I use f2 after d1 and d3 or when I teleport and know they can't react/punish but also will be able to block before I can land a superman or b312 punish. Also, after b31 like I said above or just in other situations where you think they're going to block

 

[Chaosphere]

This topic is funny cause it's like day 1 Justin Wong tech. It's pretty much the only string he ever used back when he played.

Who's justin wong?

 

[Vagrant]

Who's justin wong?

Not sure if trolling....or if MK is only fighter you play.

Justin Wong is a famous SF player..

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Not sure if trolling....or if MK is only fighter you play.

Justin Wong is a famous SF player..

Sarcasm detected.

 

[Chaosphere]

I don't like to use it after d4. d4 on hit gives you enough advantage that you get a free jump in, a free throw attempt, or you can use b312 and if they try to press anything they get hit. If you think they're going to block you're better off going for the throw or taking your jump in and if you think you're going to hit them f23 isn't really the string you want to use.

D4 on hit doesn't give a free jump in. It's +15. They can armor through your jump in. I used to do that too until some smart players started blowing me up for it.

Throwing is good, yes. Actually, conditioning them to expect the throw might cause them to let go of block next time your d4 hits which will allow you to come in and hit confirm a f23 shocker or any other string you want to do. Of course I don't f23 after every d4 on hit. You have to keep them on their toes, but it is a good option.

After jips it's alright, but after jip you can go for 22 which has all the same advantages as f23, plus it links into normal shocker so you don't have to use meter and you end the string with the low

You can go for a lot of things after jip haha. Just another option. 22 is good too.

I use f2 after d1 and d3 or when I teleport and know they can't react/punish but also will be able to block before I can land a superman or b312 punish. Also, after b31 like I said above or just in other situations where you think they're going to block

Yeah that's when I use f2 as well. I don't usually like to do it after b31 on block. At this point you're negative a good number of frames, but whatever works!

 

[Vagrant]

Sarcasm detected.

Good catch

 

[Chaosphere]

Not sure if trolling....or if MK is only fighter you play.

Justin Wong is a famous SF player..

Haha I was trolling.

 

[Red Reaper]

Krayzie was using it a lot like a year ago. He found out it jailed back then and told me since I was interested in using Raiden back then.

It's actually really good. F2 3 mix ups with D3's.

 

[miloPKL]

if i remember correctly justin wong used this string very much in his competitive mk turnouts

 

[rotanadan]

Ran a bunch of matches online putting this into my game. Its definitely a very good addition to raidens offense.

 

[trustinme]

Occasional F2+3~ExTeleports never hurt

lol thats my useless tech that sgt reed was laughing at.i still do it though

 

[lazybird123]

lol thats my useless tech that sgt reed was laughing at.i still do it though

MK players are really close minded about tech, once you experience other communities you'll see that what is known as "tech" to MK players is "broken stuff" in other games

 

[trustinme]

MK players are really close minded about tech, once you experience other communities you'll see that what is known as "tech" to MK players is "broken stuff" in other games

well mk9 is full of broken random bullshit anyway so theres not really anything that you could call tech.tbh i dont even think the frame data is 100% accurate for this game.

 

[Chaosphere]

f23~ex-teleport isn't considered tech, imo. It's just an option if you think the opponent is going to try and punish your f23~tele. I would probably save the ex-tele though since f23~tele puts you at -3. If you want to use meter to armor through their next move, you can... but I see it as a waste of meter unless it works... in which case it wasn't a waste of meter haha. But I think you'd be better off just blocking after a f23~tele or going for a cross up there as most people won't be able to react that quickly and if they're trying to mash out a punish your crossup will probably get them. Of course you have other options too.

 

[trustinme]

tbh i havent really found a use for ex tele so i just throw it out sometimes after f23,usually gets a free throw.

 

[Phosferrax]

tbh i havent really found a use for ex tele so i just throw it out sometimes after f23,usually gets a free throw.

Ex-tele is really good. I mostly use it to bait out an attempted punish on the first teleport, I normally get a full combo from it. When I know the opponent is trying to bait me to tele, thats when I use it. Also they start to respect it after a couple of times if you hit them hard with it, which opens up your options with regular teleport.

 

[Chaosphere]

Ex-tele is really good. I mostly use it to bait out an attempted punish on the first teleport, I normally get a full combo from it. When I know the opponent is trying to bait me to tele, thats when I use it. Also they start to respect it after a couple of times if you hit them hard with it, which opens up your options with regular teleport.

Exactly. Ex-teleport is best used when you know they are good at punishing regular tele. It can also be used when they are waking up to confuse their directions and stuff their wakeup attempt. Then there's the mixup after 1212 between regular tele and ex-tele since regular tele is -6 and they get a free string there. The ex-tele can punish them for going for the free pressure.

 

[trustinme]

thanks for the tips,im going to finally try and put abit of effort into raiden instead of doing random bullshit.is it me or is the ex tele awkward to pull off? i dont mean after a blockstring i mean just a naked one. i cant seem to get it everytime lol

 

[Chaosphere]

thanks for the tips,im going to finally try and put abit of effort into raiden instead of doing random bullshit.is it me or is the ex tele awkward to pull off? i dont mean after a blockstring i mean just a naked one. i cant seem to get it everytime lol

It can be, yes. I do it like this: down, hold block, up in fast succession

 

[trustinme]

It can be, yes. I do it like this: down, hold block, up in fast succession

ok thanks man,i thought it was just me.felt like a right dick asking that lol.

 

[Matador Fiend]

This thread helps me understand some of what you were doing when we played last

 

[Chaosphere]

This thread helps me understand some of what you were doing when we played last

Can you hear me raging about dive kick when we're playing? Lol

 

[Matador Fiend]

Can you hear me raging about dive kick when we're playing? Lol

Haha yeah good times well have to play again. I had my moments too getting caught by ex teleport too many times

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

F2, 3, VB seems to jail on every character except Reptile. Stupid Reptile

 

[Chaosphere]

F2, 3, VB seems to jail on every character except Reptile. Stupid Reptile

Yeah I think reptile it doesn't work on and then ermac and sektor in the corner. I think that's it though. There could be another character in the corner it doesn't work on.