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F2~Up Guns: Better frame trap, more damage

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
So, for those who may not realize, Harley can do f2~db1 instead of f2~df1 on most characters in the corner. Db1 is +4 on block, and can be hit confirmed into df1 pretty easily for more damage than the commonly used f2~df1.

She is also in throw range on block, while plus enough that only characters with 6f pokes can trade with the throw.

It does actually have a gap that can be back dashed (nothing else), but since this only works in the corner and up guns have crazy recovery, Harley can full combo punish the backdash.

The most important factor is knowing who you can use this on. That is the primary purpose of this post. I got bored and made a list.


F2~db1 effectiveness list

Hellboy: Yes
Sub-Zero: No
Swamp Thing: Yes
Cyborg: Yes
Enchantress: On block
Starfire: On block
Raiden: Yes
TMNT: No
Atom: No
Darkseid: Yes
Black Manta: Yes
Red Hood: Yes
Catwoman: No
Harley: On block
Flash: Yes
Green Lantern: Yes
Batman: Yes
Superman: Yes
Joker: Yes
Atrocitus: Yes
Grodd: Yes
Cheetah: On hit
Deadshot: Yes
Poison Ivy: Yes
Supergirl: On block
Green Arrow: No
Fate: On block
Blue Beetle: No
Firestorm: On block
Black Canary: No
Aquaman: Yes
Wonder Woman: Yes
Black Adam: Yes
Captain Cold: No
Robin: On block
Scarecrow: Yes
Bane: Yes
Brainiac: Yes