Question - Erron Black Erron Black vs GM Sub-Zero

[pillow slobber]

I seem to have trouble against extremely pro sub zeros , not the main casual ones but the ones that really know how to punish/play grand master at a professional level.

I use outlaw so perhaps that's why I'm struggling to get in on all their strings to ice clone.

Any tips ? It seems that corner pressure is nearly impossible to get out unless you ex outta there.

Does marksmen fare better? Maybe I should master marksmen for this match up

 

[THTB]

That name is amazing...

Now that that's out of the way, @SonicFox5000. Teach your ways...

 

[pillow slobber]

Thanks I used to main reptile in mk9 , some know me but man I hate reptile in this one.

 

[lionheart21]

Marksman is better for this matchup since he can keep Sub-Zero at fullscreen and basically zone him out since Sub-Zero really only has Ice Ball to reach him. However, you still need to keep a lookout for this.

As for Outlaw, I'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

 

[RelentlessOhio]

Marksman is better for this matchup since he can keep Sub-Zero at fullscreen and basically zone him out since Sub-Zero really only has Ice Ball to reach him. However, you still need to keep a lookout for this.

As for Outlaw, I'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

Between Slide and block/run, whiff tactics, using his clone, SZ has plenty to get back in from full-screen.

 

[SonicFox5000]

No see he is trying to slowly push you in the corner. Play the neutral game with him. He can't just keep ice cloning. Everytime he does, throw caltrops as a reversal down. If he tries to zone you with ice or tries to toss his clone, he will take more damage from stepping on traps. Its a 5-5 in My opinion

 

[lionheart21]

Between Slide and block/run, whiff tactics, using his clone, SZ has plenty to get back in from full-screen.

Everyone in the game is able to use block/run to get in, though.

I meant that mainly as a way to trade hits. Erron in Marksman can deal with non-EX Slide without much of an issue with Low Shot, plus I've found that Ice clone is most effective when at close or midrange. I'll admit that I'm not really all that up-to-date with Subs' whiff tactics, though.

 

[ProudDisciple]

Along with caltrops, while at mid screen I try and use sand grenade while anticipating slide and ice clone.

 

[wsj515]

Everyone in the game is able to use block/run to get in, though.

I meant that mainly as a way to trade hits. Erron in Marksman can deal with non-EX Slide without much of an issue with Low Shot, plus I've found that Ice clone is most effective when at close or midrange. I'll admit that I'm not really all that up-to-date with Subs' whiff tactics, though.

if you are looking to trade, I think gunslinger is a much better option, with SOS4 being 2 hits. that way you can blow up clones and force them to block one of the shots.

 

[Kanalratte]

if u got cornered by a clone try throw an EX sand grenade. if youre lucky (sub must be close to his clone), it will hit both the clone and Sub. Sub will then hit to the air, rc and combo. of course if he's jump punching you probably eat his combo.

 

[The Farmer]

Gunslinger believe it or not is pretty effective against grandmaster. Multi hitting SOS 3 and 4 blow up clone and you can catch him in slide on a read with SOS 3.

 

[learis1]

Tom Brady (GM Sub Zero) vs. Reo (Outlaw Erron)

Can't ask for better teaching than to just watch.

 

[Kanalratte]

it's like seeing two robots fighting each other. good shit.

 

[lionheart21]

Loving Reo's use of caltrops and those corner combos. Great stuff.