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Eldriken
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Already saw that, which is why I've stated before that some folks need to save their bitching for when March 1st rolls around 'cause we don't know what is staying. "some/most yes" doesn't mean "everything", y'know?
Already saw that, which is why I've stated before that some folks need to save their bitching for when March 1st rolls around 'cause we don't know what is staying. "some/most yes" doesn't mean "everything", y'know?
Haha! DJT called it out when he heard saying he welcomes all the fraudulent incoming F/T players. I would place them in a separate group from you guys. I know exactly who was playing F/T before Feb 2016. It's gonna be worth remembering lol.
How can we test this? I feel like it's shorter too but it may just be in our heads.
Its going to be very obvious who picked them up now and who has been working with them the whole time. All they see is potential top tier, where as we literally see the entire game from their perspective, they will be in for a rude awakening when they play against someone that knows the character
See which has more range, max range D1 or max range command grab, D1 went slightly farther before
You measure it in beta and then measure it on live. Go in lab and have players stand on blue circle line for reference, screenshot maximum distance.
I'm taking you and Eldriken's word for it.
I hope that this isn't where all the quan and lao mains flood to. The type who just go for the character who gets the easiest wins. They will learn real quick that f/t isn't for them lol.
I'm actually wondering about this. I wouldn't be surprised if I could counterpick Ruthless with Lackey. I'd be happy if that was the case. Especially since Lackey has always been my main squeeze.
Lackey poops on the other variations, knock Ferra off their back once and now its Lackey vs Lackey except their Lackey doesnt have any of Lackeys real options
I like Lackey because it was nice to not have to worry about Ferra returning. Plus he felt a lot like how I always wanted Grundy to play. And counter-poking with d1 tick grab feels amazing. Everybody falls for it.
I've got a lot of footage of me getting my ass kicked. Does that count?Have you?
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What are your command grab setups? I generally only do it after d1 on hit (trying to tick d1 is too risky imo), b12 on block, s1 on block or sometimes after a corpse hop if I know they're not waking up. I want more lol
Theres the d3 grab option select or after D4 on block (plus 1)
Wait d3 command grab only comes out on block? I did not know this. Still learning lackey.
It depends on the player I'm facing for me. It's up to how their counterpoking habits are. I usually poke with d1 one or two times before throwing out the command grab. I also like to condition somebody with b121 and b1212, then I can just just b12 then d1 tick grab.
, the key now will be finding optimal length combos for ferra to remount. Now that we have three new specials to enhance, I really hope they've buffed our meter build, a second area of weakness after aa. EX Boss Toss better be a fucking brutality and unscaled damage (the extra 4% should be unscaled).Still possible, it happened during REO and SonicFox's stream, on D'Vorah crouching I believe.
it will be plus the farther away because hit hits later, giving Torr time to recover before it hits the opponent, same (but inverted) reason b232+4 has a hole, after b2 at close reange. later hit = Torr recovers sooner = we are plus. Earlier hit = Torr recovers later = we are minus. Same concept applies to the OH throw.
Lol this was always a shit match up for sub. Especilly GM, oh hi Subby, you just dropped a clone in neutral? wellcome to a 50/50 you just put yourself in. Ferra eats iceballs like candy, like seriously she has a thing for those. I've crushed so many when by no rights it should have.
I disagree, I still feel that F/T's fullscreen options are piss, or at the very least do not need to be respected. I think some people were saying Ferra moves bit faster, but before, hitting someone at fullscreen with ferra can be tough, even in a poor connection both throws are very reactable and easy to avoid. and even if you did hit them, on block there just isn't enough advantage to do anything with it, on hit is better, but our oki options at that point are lessened.
The key to online Ferra/Torr is just consistent combos, and (specifically talking about Ruthless, really the go to variation for 85% of matchups) stacking PnG. anything ended in command grab you can get a free stack out, or 4 (while juggled) cancelled into PnG actually gives you enough time to get another stack out (so one PnG punish can safely get you up to three stacks e.g. 4xxPnG rc f2, njp, f3, 4xxPng PnG, also does something like 36%). at that point, command grab alone does something like 25-30% (mb is 31%), breathing on them, then sending them fullscreen pretty much guarantees the win.
Zone out as best you can (though this strategy is no longer going to be as effective, our trades before were good, now they are full combos). Bait a ferra throw, jump to avoid it then start your *insert playstyle here* game while they have to wait for ferra to really start rolling again. Send them fullscreen, rinse, repeat. Getting in with Ferra Torr can be more difficult than people think, or maybe I just suck.
who guys look t the modesty over here. Thanks @Doombawkz
Person who doesn't know what he's doing, reporting in. I've actually switched(mostly) to b1212 instead of b12xxOH. I still use it for plus frames, but if they know the gap in b121, and I've got them well trained, b1212 catches them either blocking low reading bowl girl, or when they drop their block to armour through, and has enough advantage for a PnG.
Can confirm, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing once I get into a real match. XP
I will show you the ways of the Ruthless
