Oh, I misunderstood the post. For some reason I had it in my head that the AI just didn't exercise the option to have an invincible wakeup. I now realize that that is idiotic. -_____________-
At MLG there were a couple of times where someone's EX wake-up beat out an X-Ray.
Really? YES IT DOES
Now I'm questioning if I really *have* ever had EX ass punished when getting out of the corner. I feel like I've been punished for trying it before, though.
well, the wake up system works like this. This is just an example btw, lets say you have 20 frame from down to get up. If you are on point by frame 1, then you have 20 frame of invisibility. If you do it on frame 5, then you have 15. If 10 then you have 10. So you can if you are not on point
MK9 AI is extremely glitchy.
do this work with ex projectile moves like shang's ex ground skulls or ex straight skulls?
It's a set limit, if you see wake up attack at the bottom, then you got all of it.
I think it could run out if crossed up but I'm not sure. I've seen similar things but that's going to be hard for me to test.
Yes.
Yep.
Playpal actually posted a video showing that it works for normal attacks too.
See above, it isn't a wake up attack. It has to say wake up attack!
AestheticLove, any examples?
EX Tele is 31 frames.. And it takes much longer to go down than it does to go up and hit. So it makes sense for Sektor.
AI does not have the 20 frames of invincibility, only 11. First post has already said that.
Firts post seems to INFER that Exwakeup attacks performed by a human have 20 frames of invincibility because Mileena gets hit on the 20th frame. Its a deduction based on an observation. I'm wondering (just as Dizzy did) whether this is the correct inferrence to make. I understand the OP says what is says
It does not matter how long it takes for him to leave the screen or whether the attack is just framed. The down 4 should always hit him out of it because either the invincibility would run out (4+at least 12), or the wake up window would end and a wake up attack would not be possible. I downloaded the video and even though the video is 30fps, I can still tell the attack should have connected if it only had regular invincibility. So please, if anybody has any video evidence of anything getting stuffed, do me/us a favor and post them.Firts post seems to INFER that Exwakeup attacks performed by a human have 20 frames of invincibility because Mileena gets hit on the 20th frame. Its a deduction based on an observation. I'm wondering (just as Dizzy did) whether this is the correct inferrence to make. I understand the OP says what is says
We know that because b12f4 is -4, the d4 has an execution of 16 frames before becoming active (provided you just frame it). We also know Teleport has 31 frames of startup, so my question is how many of those frames is Sektor on screen before switching sides? We need that number in order to do the math. Regular tele and Ex tele have different startups (29f & 31f), how are those frames distributed as far as being in front and behind, how do they differ?
The reason Im asking this is because I remember stuffing Sektor out of his Extele on wakeup and 100% know Ive stuffed the Exflamethrower with JC f33. FT has 18 frames of startup, which would be totally invincible if he had 20 frames but interruptible if he had 11.
Your video shows that a d4 follow up to noobs b12f4 stuffs Sektor wakup tele but not his Extele. Its not enough by itself to conclusively determine that all Exwakeups in the game have 20 frames of invincibility. Unless you know the frames on the window for Sektor's tele to be stuffed in (and differences between normal and Ex), you recorded the video at 60fps, and made sure every d4 in it is just framed.
yea come on guys Somberness has never steered us wrong before,
Its because reptiles dash isn't a true wakeup. Its a fast special that is basically a wakeup when timed right, but if you notice bottom right corner in practice mode, when you wakeup it will say wakeup attack or w.e for the valid wakeup moves. I think this is why it gets no invincibility. Also i think its not a true 20 frames from reading. I believe you get a smaller amount of invincibility due to the fact that you won't always wakeup on the first frame possible. This reducing the period from say 20 down to 15 or 10 or 5 frames, which would make it easier to be poked out of.
