Yes.
It's at least -2 because superman can still punish blocked low shots from full screen
how ?
Because Superman's "Super" is two frames startup (or so says Tom Brady...)
It doesn't punish high or low guns full screen, Supe's Super is an overhead, are you stand blocking it?
omg lol his super is an overhead? I feel like such an idiot. I guess I won't get hit by his super so much anymore ;_;
Correct.
The stupid thing is, it's such a slow match too. Since low shots do 6%, 3% each bullet, the Deathstrokes will be suuuuuuper slowly whittling each others HP down from opposite ends of the screen. That is, until one of them realizes that the other one has the health lead and something will have to change.
maybe you guys covered this by Sword spin cannot be punished by any move other than superman SUPERAs you may or may not know, the in-game block (and hit) advantage data is wrong for all moves with multiple hits. And all of Deathstroke's specials have more that one hit! If you set the AI to do reversals you can get better data (ex. 19F Tantrum Stance punished Sword Flip, 20F Flip Kick couldn't, punish it, so it's -20). It'll have to do until the frame data is fixed.
Using the AI reversal stuff.
Quick Fire: -17, MB: -17
(Air) Quick Fire: -6 (really low) to -19 (so high that one bullet misses)
Low Shots: -12, MB: -14
Machine Gun: -20, MB: -20
Sword Spin: -7
Sword Flip: -20
Just as an example, you'd need a move with a startup of 19 to punish Sword Flip.
Because that's not true. Flash's flying uppercut can punish it.
Do it with Flash uppercut instead. If it's not at tip range it's guaranteed.
Lex doesn't charge forward fast enough to make up for the Sword Spin's pushback.
That blows
That might be it. Some D1s come out in 6 frames, but I'm not sure if a reversal comes out quicker than a D1 after blocking something. If it does, then Ares can D1 xx Low Trait you for a full combo after Sword Spin. However, considering you would really only use SS during a blockstring already, you'll probably push the opponent far enough away not not have to worry about D1s.
I feel like its a ridiculous wake up move if can only be punished by 2 moves in the game
Some D1s are 7 frames and slower. Green Arrow can D1 xx Ice Arrow you, but his D1 is 7 frames, so it shouldnt be able to punish Sword Spin.
It's not that ridicolous because it has no vertical hitbox over his head , meaty crossups beat it pretty often but off certain knockdowns he can sword flip ( tho doesn't have invincibility ) you out if the crossup is too meaty so yeah he has a good wakeup game but nothing OP.
Sinestro is sooooooooooooo Jealous
Dont his spider thingies have some wakeup invincibility?
Lol
I mean, Sinestro can be jealous of better people though. KF's slide has 2 decades of invincibility.
