Vagrant
Champion
I've run this multiple times at GGA with GGA pimpimjim and It's probably one of the matchups that concerns me the most with Deathstroke. That being said it's a very interesting matchup and alot of fun to play.
Up close I think they go even. Both have scary mixup games that lead to significant damage (raven has the damage advantage here) Mainly I block low against her and if I see her overhead i can usually react to it in time.
The zoning game they play is whats interesting about this matchup. DS can lowshot under her projectile, Raven gets big damage off of her EX lift and EX crush. If she reads gunshot she can absorb and ex "lolzparryfireball" back at him. He can sit full screen and shoot at her and her lift and crush are out of range. Until she traits.
This is when this bitch is scary to me. The crazy pink pillars that come out of the ground and the full screen range of her crush are threats that must be respected. But the real mind fuck is the threat of her teleport. If she teleports left or right I can buffer spin or flip and it will OS depending on what side of me she is on. While this is easy to do against an obviously read teleport, it's not so easy when mixed up with her pillar thingys and her crush. If you don't react to her teleport in time guess what? Either she hit you and your being combo'd, or she's in and you better defend her mixups correctly. Making the correct reads here I think is the deciding factor in who wins.
The Raven I train against is by no means a slouch. He just got second at Toryuken so my competetion is more than credible to draw matchup observations from.
What are YOUR observations in this matchup and how do you like to go about playing it? I'm not asking for MU numbers. It's way too early for that. Just your thoughts.
EDIT: THIS POST WAS MADE PRE PATCH 1.03, THIS AFFECTS THE ZONING WAR BETWEEN THESE TWO SIGNIFICANTLY AND NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I WILL UPDATE AFTER UFGT.
Up close I think they go even. Both have scary mixup games that lead to significant damage (raven has the damage advantage here) Mainly I block low against her and if I see her overhead i can usually react to it in time.
The zoning game they play is whats interesting about this matchup. DS can lowshot under her projectile, Raven gets big damage off of her EX lift and EX crush. If she reads gunshot she can absorb and ex "lolzparryfireball" back at him. He can sit full screen and shoot at her and her lift and crush are out of range. Until she traits.
This is when this bitch is scary to me. The crazy pink pillars that come out of the ground and the full screen range of her crush are threats that must be respected. But the real mind fuck is the threat of her teleport. If she teleports left or right I can buffer spin or flip and it will OS depending on what side of me she is on. While this is easy to do against an obviously read teleport, it's not so easy when mixed up with her pillar thingys and her crush. If you don't react to her teleport in time guess what? Either she hit you and your being combo'd, or she's in and you better defend her mixups correctly. Making the correct reads here I think is the deciding factor in who wins.
The Raven I train against is by no means a slouch. He just got second at Toryuken so my competetion is more than credible to draw matchup observations from.
What are YOUR observations in this matchup and how do you like to go about playing it? I'm not asking for MU numbers. It's way too early for that. Just your thoughts.
EDIT: THIS POST WAS MADE PRE PATCH 1.03, THIS AFFECTS THE ZONING WAR BETWEEN THESE TWO SIGNIFICANTLY AND NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I WILL UPDATE AFTER UFGT.
