Question - Raiden Damage Reduced from first patch

[ericscissorkick]

anyone in the lab right now with him?

I'm Far from home and I heard he got nerfed big time.

 

[mine is broken]

just started, 214 ex shocker 213 superman from 37 to 33% (midscreen)... and in corner 214 ex shocker 34 213 b111+3 from 46 to 41%. moderate nerf

 

[ruff321]

b2 b2 214 xx ex shocker b14 shocker does 43%. Before it did 48%. Not a big difference TBH he still does insane damage

 

[mine is broken]

^it's not a make or break deal for Raiden, as ruff said it's still good and as far as i know (but still testing) no frame changes or anything crazy

 

[ericscissorkick]

Phew. I was really worried that they killed him.

Thanks guys.

Also I heard the damage scaling for shocker was changed. Negative or positive?

 

[GamerBlake90]

Shocker now scales properly in combos, meaning it does less damage than it did before.

That's fair enough. In certain cases with prolonged combos it didn't seem like the Shocker was scaling at all.

 

[delbuster]

corner overhead 1 bar went from 54 to 47
corner low 1 bar went from 52 to 40

meterless is pretty low, around 34 for corner overhead and like 30ish for corner low?

 

[SaltShaker]

Should've been nerfed harder. You all got lucky. This time...

 

[RozayMcTang]

LRC combos scaled any?

 

[ericscissorkick]

What about his back 11 1+3? Does that come out any different?

 

[ericscissorkick]

Should've been nerfed harder. You all got lucky. This time...

I think hes about done being normalized. Now about kano.....

 

[SaltShaker]

I think hes about done being normalized. Now about kano.....

 

[Raidenwins]

just started, 214 ex shocker 213 superman from 37 to 33% (midscreen)... and in corner 214 ex shocker 34 213 b111+3 from 46 to 41%. moderate nerf

I am ok with those changes. It would have been nice if they'd reduced the recovery frames on his normal Teleport in Displacer variation though.

 

[RWDY Nori]

So Raiden is still top tier and they just nerfed his damage a little bit? We got lucky haha

 

[DarksydeDash]

My 52% with 1 bar now only does 45%

 

[RWDY Nori]

My 52% with 1 bar now only does 45%

I used to be a Johnny Cage main, trust me, 45 is damn good still. PLUS he usually ends his combos in front of him, and has retarded 50/50 mixups still. Only way to neuter Raiden is to take away his 50/50 options

 

[BoromiRofGeo]

raiden players reaction to damage nerf.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I used to be a Johnny Cage main, trust me, 45 is damn good still. PLUS he usually ends his combos in front of him, and has retarded 50/50 mixups still. Only way to neuter Raiden is to take away his 50/50 options

Lol I don't care, if I hit you with a -63 move I better take off more than half your health.

 

[RWDY Nori]

Lol I don't care, if I hit you with a -63 move I better take off more than half your health.

Well you can OS it to make it -4 though. Don't be spoiled lol

 

[getoverhere--->]

These do 46 & 51 % now

 

[ericscissorkick]

These do 46 & 51 % now

The patch notes said Raiden Thundergod was the only one.effected. Are you sure displacer has been even touched?

 

[Barrogh]

The patch notes said Raiden Thundergod was the only one.effected. Are you sure displacer has been even touched?

Patch notes say that TG strings and universal Shocker are affected by changes.

As I've predicted, TG silliness made NRS nerf Displacer and MoS

Anyone still willing to argue that character should be considered as a "whole" instead of on isolated variation basis is free to explain this stuff

Okay, just kidding, I know that it's not actual balance changes yet, but still...

 

[ericscissorkick]

Patch notes say that TG strings and universal Shocker are affected by changes.

As I've predicted, TG silliness made NRS nerf Displacer and MoS

Anyone still willing to argue that character should be considered as a "whole" instead of on isolated variation basis is free to explain this stuff

Okay, just kidding, I know that it's not actual balance changes yet, but still...

Like outlaw. TG is raidens best variation
So its understandable that they nerf the powerhouse variation and not the less used and trickier ones.

still astonishing that they are able to maintain a base balance between charcters with a single patch with this many variations.

(not saying the game is completely balanced either)

 

[esio]

corner overhead 1 bar went from 54 to 47
corner low 1 bar went from 52 to 40

meterless is pretty low, around 34 for corner overhead and like 30ish for corner low?

Do you care to tell us how is your combos, starting from overhead and low?

I used to do this (without LRC), starting with overhead in the corner:

B2, B2, B14, df2EX, B32(h), B14, df2 - It used to do 51%

 

[Dizzy]

IMO the biggest difference isnt the shocker changes, but the Thunder God specific string damage nerfs. They cause massive dmg scaling now, its rough to get decent 1 bar dmg with them as a starter, pretty much better off always saving your bar. Also, definitely dont use it as a part of your corner combos anymore, lol.